New Realities recorded on March 30, 2019
Summary
In this interview, Alan Steinfeld speaks with Adam Apollo about the deep connection between consciousness, unified physics, and extraterrestrial technology. Adam shares his insights on how human emotional and mental states affect our experience of space-time. He explains that overcoming personal and ancestral trauma is crucial for clearing our energetic fields, which in turn unlocks higher metaphysical capacities like astral projection and telepathy. Adam also recounts his own experiences with starship navigation, suggesting that advanced extraterrestrial travel relies on a combination of gravitational physics, holographic interfaces, and expanded human consciousness.
Transcript
Announcer
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Alan Steinfeld
Welcome to New Realities. I’m Alan Steinfeld. This program is about the evolution of consciousness. What’s happening is there’s an awakening of a different type of thinking, a different type of tuning into the cosmos, the galaxy that we’re a part of. Our consciousness is not separate from what’s out there. We are what’s out there. There’s many new teachers coming online and in person and at conferences that are talking about this greater awakening of consciousness. That is why I’m so happy to be talking today to Adam Apollo. He’ll be one of the keynote speakers for the upcoming Contact in the Desert. That’s in Indian Wells, right outside of Palm Springs, May 31st to June 3rd. He’ll be doing a bunch of workshops, panels. He’ll be accessible, and his level of information is outside the old guard. He’s creating a new way of thinking about the ET reality. Thank you, Adam, for being here.
Adam Apollo
Such a pleasure to be here with you, Alan. It’s great to see you again. I always enjoy our times talking together here online.
Alan Steinfeld
I think you’re tapped into something original and grounded in something I can relate to. One of the talks you’ll be giving is Superluminal Starships and Species. Do you want to talk about what that means?
Adam Apollo
Absolutely. I initially got into this whole adventure of exploring the nature of our reality and our connection with the universe through science and physics. When I was in high school, I dove deeply into studies of quantum gravity, string theory, general and special relativity, quantum mechanics. My deepest interest was in exploring and understanding how our experience works in relationship to space-time and what is the bridge between phenomenology as a human experience and actually what’s going on within the structural lattice of the flow of energy that makes up everything that we see and experience. As I began to follow that thread and pull it and go down that road, over the years I began to understand the mechanisms that give rise to consciousness and the different kinds of exchanges that we have in interplay with space-time. I also began to realize, over many years of deep study and personal experience, and then eventually in actually making contact with an extraterrestrial ambassador in the middle of the desert and meeting my star family again, that a lot of the scientific mechanisms I had discovered for how consciousness functions are foundational to the baseline sciences of these different species from other worlds. For example, one of the things I get into in this particular workshop is the nature of how to pilot a starship. Because you can’t use radar to, say, shine radar light out there and bounce it off planets you’re traveling towards and expect that you’re going to be able to coordinate the travel of your ship through the radar frequencies. Because light is way too slow to travel superluminally across different planetary systems. So this requires developing the consciousness capacity of astral travel and astral projection, or as some disclosure people would say, remote viewing, an old black ops term. These faculties that we can develop in our consciousness are actually directly connected to the technology that we will develop in the future. Just as it took a certain level of thinking to make a fire or make a computer, so does it take a certain level of thinking and consciousness to build starships.
Alan Steinfeld
Let’s go a little deeper into that. When you say how our consciousness is related to space-time, of course, it’s not just about flying starships, which is great, but it’s also about what’s happening right here on planet Earth. Talk about the relationship between consciousness and space-time and how to manipulate all that.
Adam Apollo
Absolutely. The first talk that I’ll do at Contact in the Desert, my big open forum, is a talk I call the Unified Harmonic Matrix. It’s literally about the quantum geometry and the physics of consciousness itself. In this talk, I look at the fundamental aspects of human experience, from our physical experience to our emotional and mental experience, to interpersonal, to communicative experience, spiritual experience, and experience of oneness. I look at each of these different faculties of consciousness and the way they’ve been not only perceived by ancient cultures over thousands of years, but also what are the specific geometries, elementals, and archetypal spectrums of relationship that we attach to these things. For example, the physical world. We think of the physical world and we’re like, okay, I can either feel something and it’s solid or it’s not solid. Something’s either liquid or it’s not liquid. For thousands of years, we have these ancient traditions and cultures, from the Druids to Native Americans, South American traditions, Hindu traditions, that talk about these different fundamental elementals: the fire, the air, the earth, the water, spirit. Yet in our modern times, this elemental understanding or pantheonic understanding of the forces of nature has been pushed aside as if it’s not relevant to us anymore. Like, oh, we don’t need that anymore because we just have one God, or we look at spirituality in a certain framework that maybe your religion has created. And yet, in our leading-edge science, what do we have? Thermodynamics, the study of heat and fire and plasma. We’ve got hydrodynamics, the study of water and pressure systems. Atmospherics and atmospheric studies for the air. And geology and different geosciences that study the processes and forms of the Earth, and we consider that everything in the physical reality we experience comes down to solids, liquids, gases, and plasmas. Here the elements are still there, but we’ve pushed them aside and lost that archetypal sense of their connection. When we get the connection back, we begin to actually gain new insights into those elements and their relationships, which can actually teach us a lot in science.
Alan Steinfeld
Let’s go deeper into that. How do we get the connection back and then how do we use that? Without giving away the whole workshop, I’m curious.
Adam Apollo
I’m going to go into super depth with hundreds of slides and show you guys amazing stuff from science and philosophy to geometry to scalar relationships between our body and the universe. There’s a lot there that I’m not going to touch on now, but where we can enter into this space is really returning to the phenomenology of our self experiencing the universe. You’ve got a body and how does that body work and how does it feel to be in the body? Then what is the difference between just feeling a physical experience in your body and having an emotional experience? And what is emotional experience? One of the terms I coined a long time ago, back when I was in high school, literally before the year 2000, was I used to say that emotion is E-motion, energy in motion. This is literally all we’re experiencing when we have feelings. When we began to apply that concept to emotional understanding and relationships, we begin to realize that everything we know about psychology from an emotional standpoint usually is trying to solve the problem of the resistance we have to feeling what we’re feeling. Like, you have to learn how to accept your feelings. What that is is actually opening up the resistance and the charge from being able to flow. It’s extremely valuable to let our charge flow because from a Daoist perspective, it’s really only the blocking of your chi, the blocking of the energy moving through your system, that’s going to cause illness in your body. We’re constantly trying to open up this flow a little more.
Alan Steinfeld
What do you say, it’s a little bit off the subject, but it’s something that’s been coming up with me and some friends, what do you say about trauma? Because there’s a lot of trauma involved, especially sometimes in ET contact, because they’re so far out of our worldview that to meet the other can be traumatic to the conditioned emotional being. How does… and there’s something that happens with time, space, and trauma where it’s distorted and we start to go into a missing time. How would you work with that within the time-space continuum as well as the emotional body?
Adam Apollo
It requires going up to the next level. So I talked a little bit about the physical world, the gross world, the emotional world, which is very much the etheric realm, and then we go to the mental world. The mental world is really the same thing as the astral world. Sometimes philosophers separate the mental and the astral, but when you really get down to what the astral is all about, it’s about the conceptual frameworks and geometries of thought which create the condition to form how energy is going to move, which is then also going to determine how the structure of the atoms in the physical material world actually manifest. When you’re going up to the astral, you’re dealing with literally the mental constructs that are giving rise to emotion and giving rise to physical experience and physical illness, obviously.
Alan Steinfeld
Now when you’re talking, I just got a picture of the geometries, the grid geometries surrounding certain emotional states. There are certain very square and dense geometries around the lower emotions like anger and jealousy, sadness. So we’re always creating different grid energetic structures around us. Those structures actually keep us stuck in a psychology and it’s something where we can go to the higher emotions and suddenly it’s like those soundscapes, like suddenly the grids change when we shift our emotional states to higher more divine loving emotions. There’s actually the more tetrahedral states or the diamond shapes as opposed to the square ones that trap us. Does that make sense?
Adam Apollo
Yes, so one of the ways you can look at the process of both the acquisition of trauma and the release of trauma is by looking at it like when you have a really, really intense experience that sets in a belief system, it’s almost like you’re creating a lens inside your body. That lens has now got a very specific geometric framework that, as the light is passing through your body, the chi, the energy, the vacuum field, the Earth’s electromagnetic field, whatever you want to call it, you’ve literally got an imprint that is now changing the harmonic frequencies that are passing through that lens. So what happens is now you’re experiencing certain colors of emotion more than others, especially when faced with any situation that has a similar mental configuration in your belief system to the experience that you originally had. So when your mind’s little crystal that it’s made begins to experience something that reminds it, gives it the memory of that crystal, that crystal now comes forward and it’s now shaping the flow of your experience. In the contactee world, a lot of times what’s happened is that people have had severe emotional trauma, abduction-like trauma as a child, from things that happened with their parents or from things that happened in some horrible secret rituals that their father was a part of. There’s a lot of stuff that goes on out there. And then later on, when they have an experience of being completely taken out of their context and they don’t feel like they have control of a situation or safety anymore, it’s going to re-evoke all the emotions of that original trauma and they’re going to see it through the lens of the original belief, which is going to be like, however they feel like they’re going to be hurt or they’re unsafe or these beings are trying to harm them or whatever. Oftentimes, that may be the case even if the current experience actually is not threatening at all. It may not be threatening at all, but they may be projecting on the current experience this original lens. Just to wrap this up, I’ll say you can, if you’re willing to question the emotional reaction and the physiological reactions you’re having in the moment to any experience and say, wow, why am I triggered by this? Why is this really triggering me so much? Why do I feel so afraid and so intense? And you’re willing to look back, if you can see that original lens that you created, that original belief structure, you can then re-evaluate it and say, is this belief that I have about this possible experience actually matching up with where I want to be now or not? And then you have the faculties to be able to change it.
Alan Steinfeld
That’s great, and I totally get that. Now, if you don’t have the access to that original belief structure because it’s in the lineage, it’s in the genetics, it’s in the ancestry, we have to infuse ourselves anyway with a new grid matrix to sort of shift out of that, right? So how do you work on that level?
Adam Apollo
There are ways to access information back through our ancestral patterns and DNA, just as well as there are ways to access the imprints that we have in our belief systems from previous lifetimes. Again, these all these operations happen at the level of the astral and on into the ketheric plane and into the akashic and so on and so forth. But it really requires the mind. This is why the solar plexus is so important is because the mind has the capacity to limit your capacity to perceive just as much as it has the capacity to open the possibility of what you can perceive. So for example, if you just like, I don’t believe that anything that my ancestors have done can affect me, you’re just not even going to see that as a possibility. I don’t believe that I have any past lives, you’re not going to be able to see or remember any information before this lifetime. And that’s because the astral is in very much a sense, your mental field, it’s totally a malleable geometric field and you can close off boxes if you want to. And you can also unlock those boxes. What it requires to do that kind of deeper level lineage healing is the willingness to actually explore and go back into yourself and into the spaces inside of your own being that hold the information that’s there behind the trigger, behind the wound, behind the psychological pattern. Sometimes that requires, for ancestral stuff, actually seeing the pattern in your parents or your grandparents. Because once you see it in your parents or grandparents, or maybe both, then you’re like, oh, maybe this is an ancestral thing. Maybe this is just something that’s been passed to me. Whereas for a past life experience, the difference is going to be that it’s going to require you feeling a resonance through some kind of archetypal reflection, like a movie or a book or something that triggers you to, wow, I remember feeling this experience in my body so strong, that then starts to unlock your ability to bring that energy through and clear the lenses that you formed at that time.
Alan Steinfeld
That’s great, and that sort of takes care of the past, what we’ve dealt with. Now if we’re going to go forward into the future and meet the rest of our family, our bigger family, and fly starships, what do we need to do that same pattern of recognizing past lineages to step into it? Where is this all going, Adam, with all your knowledge? You’re a brilliant being and doing some amazing things on the planet right now. What has to happen?
Adam Apollo
What’s really interesting and what I found in my own exploration of this is that when I got back far enough, and I started working out literally all the stuff back in the age of Atlantis, when I started really working out my karmic issues and the things that I had with my parents from there, and I actually met my parents from Atlantis that I was born to at that time, I was able to realize that I was a hybrid at that time. I was only partially human and I was also part star nation. Then I was able to access the memory of being a Sirian star ambassador and working with a bunch of other friends and family from other star families and other groups, choosing to plan to literally leave my body and travel as a soul to be born into one of these hybrid bodies that my particular Sirian star family had been creating and cultivating on the Earth over a few centuries, and to come down and participate, to join with the rest of the star families that were also making hybrids with humans, and also with all of these beautiful humans, to see if we could literally help humanity become part of this galactic community at that time. By accessing sort of these keys in the distant past, I was able to actually see a clearer lens of where we’re going in the future. Because I understood and I remembered what it was like in my journey through different planets in the galaxy to become a galactic species. What those big jumps really are. They’re really about mastery of the energy in space-time, mastery of how that energy configures itself into resources and materials, what I call the replication key, and then also an understanding of gravitation and the flow and warp and weave of space-time itself. Because when you understand how to unlock our capacity to change and adjust gravitational fields, you also begin to unlock the capacity to travel to other star systems and eventually superluminal travel, which is being able to travel faster than light.
Alan Steinfeld
So tell us that, how do we unlock the gravitational fields so we can start to levitate our bodies or cars?
Adam Apollo
That’s a great question. First, it requires an understanding of what the gravitational field is. What gravity is, we’ve all probably heard Einstein’s communication that gravity is the curvature of space-time. We’ve all seen the flat sort of grid that’s been warped by a planet that’s sitting in it, it looks like it’s bending the sheet. We’ve seen it in magazines and all this.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, mass, mass bends space. The greater the mass, the greater the pull on space and therefore time itself. So yes, there seems to be that neo-Einsteinian understanding.
Adam Apollo
Yes, and that to some extent is a fairly common understanding, but as we get deeper, we begin to ask other questions. Like, what is mass? And why does space-time bend around mass? And what is the interplay between the two? When we follow the unified physics trajectory, when we follow the trajectory to how does gravity work at a quantum scale? How do we unify quantum mechanics and general relativity? We begin to start to see that the connection is really just in how energy is flowing, how energy is moving, and how energy is bending and curving around singularities. What that means is that if space-time curves enough, it gets to a point where there’s a maximum curvature. Maximum curvature is really the point where it can’t curve anymore. We could say that is the center point of any center of mass in which there is curvature of space-time. The reality is that even when we just look at the proton, what we’re looking at is a small little bundle of curved space-time. Otherwise, it wouldn’t have mass at all.
Alan Steinfeld
This is Nassim’s work, right? Do you pick up on it? Nassim Haramein, right?
Adam Apollo
He did an amazing job of calculating the translation where he could take literally the curvature of a proton at its event horizon or its charge radius, and by calculating the gravitational field at that event horizon, he gets the same result as the Yukawa potential, which solves for the strong force. Already, it was a huge move in unifying physics, but he’s not the only guy working in this area, and there’s a lot of amazing understanding that comes in when you begin to look at the Planck scale structure network of space-time itself. Because a couple of things pop out. One is that space-time is not empty at all, that it’s a super highly energized lattice that’s just in this incredible state of what I call geometric tensegrity, and that comes from Buckminster Fuller, which is that space-time is super highly energized, but it’s generally, mostly in a state of balance. Except that it’s always just a little bit out of equilibrium, and that tiny bit out of equilibrium is actually our experience of gravitation around a planet. When you get all the way down to the proton level, you start getting the keys of how a starship could actually work. Because a proton doesn’t decay for the entire lifetime of the universe. In fact, a proton based on our estimations should last about the length of four to five universes of time, from the beginning to the end. So what that means is it’s not slowing down, it’s not changing. So this little ball of light, in fact these little balls that make up all these things that we see, every form of mass that we’re witnessing, are somehow spinning at the speed of light at their equator and they’re not slowing down and they’re staying that way stably for billions of years. So how is that possible? And this is there’s a deep key to how the structure of the proton relates to how we can actually build a standing wave gravitational field and create an envelope or event horizon around a craft that allows it to travel faster than light.
Alan Steinfeld
Have we done this? Is this just a theory or is this actuality?
Adam Apollo
You know, it’s a good question. I mean, based on some of the whistleblowing out there, I would say it’s possible that humans have at least developed gravitational warping drives. But as far as a full superluminal drive that creates the full envelope and lets it literally transpose itself from one place to another on the other side of the universe, have humans pulled off that technology in alien reproduction vehicles or things like that? That I don’t know. I haven’t seen one personally. But I have seen gravitational drives in construction. I’ve been to labs where I’ve literally seen a 98% done quarter-scale model engine that could lift a small car-sized craft.
Alan Steinfeld
Where have you seen that?
Adam Apollo
I can’t talk about that on a public recording.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay, that’s okay.
Adam Apollo
But there are several projects like this in action, and I’ve witnessed the work in them. One of them is an energetic system, one of them is a gravitational drive designed to warp space-time. Some of them are amazing water engines. There’s great replication work happening right now. So there’s a lot of technology work that’s being done just under the surface because it still needed to be kept secret for the most part right now because we’re in this still very volatile time.
Alan Steinfeld
Do you think it will be public? Do you think there will be anti-gravity machines that will be part of the public use?
Adam Apollo
I’m counting on it. I’m counting on navigating a starship in the next 10 years. If I reach my goals, that’s where we’re at.
Alan Steinfeld
So your work is involved with building technology and also building a spiritual consciousness base.
Adam Apollo
Yes. I work across a variety of fields. So I teach unified physics with the Resonance Science Foundation. I have a course on quantum geometry, which addresses the geometry of the proton and the scalar relationship between that geometry and other large-scale objects in the universe, that will be out in the next couple of months. And I work with a company that we basically are building a new encryption system to provide better data sovereignty exchanges between groups, both ones working on advanced technologies that we hope to see reach the world, as well as to support and protect the public and help transition us to actual privacy and real community-based communication where we don’t constantly have this sense that everything that we do is either being owned by Facebook or being completely able to be read and whatever by whatever government agency decides to do it. Freedom technologies and the enlightened structures for how we become an enlightened and sovereign galactic civilization is a lot of the work that I do in the world.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, it sounds like you’re living into your ET potential, your human ET integrated potential. Because your work has allowed you to expand into that, or maybe the expansion allowed you to work into that. Is that the sense, that you are here on a mission to uplift humanity to these new potentials?
Adam Apollo
I’m here in service. So I’d like to see every human have the opportunity, every being in the universe in fact have the opportunity to recognize their true potential as infinite, eternal beings that are so powerful that most of them can’t even conceive of their own capacity for love and for change and for light. It’s an amazing time to live right now because in most of my other lifetimes here on Earth, I’ve had to round up the men and get on the horses and ride out with our swords just to stop these guys from burning our villages, you know? And then if we’re lucky, we get to stand in a stone circle and sing ancient galactic songs and witness star family coming down to hang out with us and have a nice blessing for the planet. But it’s been a pretty tough journey since Atlantis, you know, between Egypt and Avalon and the Old West was ridiculous. There’s a lot of really intense periods. And I have my own karmic wounds from times as a samurai and from other lifetimes, and I’ve done a lot of work to get back in there and recover those memories and heal those parts of myself and fall in love with those aspects of myself again. By doing that, I think that in this time, what’s really opened up for me is a huge sense of integration and potential, where I know who I am and I know who I’ve been and I know the mistakes I’ve made in the past. And I know the glorious light that exists and the beauty of our intergalactic relationships out there. And I also know the pain that species have faced in the challenges and the traumas of their own planets evolving and in intergalactic wars that have happened. So it’s in this beautiful moment right now that I feel this immense potential for all the people of Earth to come into a real awareness of their capacity to go far beyond where any man has gone before and to literally explore new worlds and new civilizations and discover their own family again for the first time.
Alan Steinfeld
So the higher ETs are waiting for a part of us to wake up to come forward to integrate. I mean, they’re here, they’re gone, they come to people and then they… So is that the plan? If you could lay out the plan for open contact, integration, galactic celebration of family oneness, what is the plan as you see it?
Adam Apollo
The way that I usually work to share this with people is from my initial experience when I really first encountered a physical star being in the middle of the desert, and then I ended up astrally projecting and meeting this whole astral council of beings from all over.
Alan Steinfeld
Tell me about that, that sounds great.
Adam Apollo
In the experience that I had, the instantaneity of understanding and the light language of telepathy that was being used for us to discuss how ready is Earth, how ready is humanity? What can they handle at this point? When can we have full open contact and open trade? A major part of the consideration of that council of beings is exactly looking at, okay, Earth beings are going through the same process that all planetary species go through when they go through a planetary transition to a true global civilization. You have to let them figure it out for themselves. Because if we try to jump in too soon and hand them technology or save the day, they will not have fully integrated the lessons from the mistakes that they’ve made, the karma and the challenges, in order to grow and become capable enough and strong enough in the heart and mind to be able to navigate a universe that’s far beyond anything that they can dream of right now. There is going to be challenges that Earth humans are going to face as a galactic species in the next thousands of years. It’s just inevitable. There are challenging scenarios when stars go supernova and when other species meet each other in conflict. In order to deal with all this stuff, you have to be able to be strong and have the agility to navigate it on your own. It requires us growing out of our childhood basically, where we are taking off the training wheels, learning to ride the bike, falling off, scraping our knees. So Earth people are doing that. As a kid, they got to scrape their knees and they have to make mistakes sometimes in order to not skin their knee so much in the future, if they want to get more agile, if they want to get stronger, if they want to get smarter, they have to face their own challenges. You can’t do it for them, because if you do it for them, then what happens is they just expect that you’re always going to do it for them.
Alan Steinfeld
But we’ve been on this downward spiral for 5,000, 20,000, maybe 50,000 years.
Adam Apollo
Exactly, let’s look back at the history of galactic contact on the Earth. We have all these records of ancient cultures talking about the sun gods and goddesses coming down, doing things, they worshipped them. And all of this, but what happened? Nothing changed. The civilization had to crash because they had to leave eventually, and there wasn’t a spin-up of our human consciousness, this Earth’s Gaia and planetary consciousness, that was at a level that was ready to meet them coming down. And so especially now in the way that human culture is, you realize like they can’t just give us the tech because then we’ll always think of them as this superior thing. But if we build it ourselves and we figure it out ourselves, even if it takes some of us who are star family doing the job as humans with other humans and other star family, we’re at least doing it in this collaborative experiment where it’s emergent from us. And we are achieving that galactic civilization together. And we are along the way spiritually maturing in the ways that we need to mature in order to be able to start working with a civilization that is frankly telepathic. Astral travels extremely easily, is fully capable of seeing spirits, entities, astral beings, and projections from any planet to any other planet, and literally has applied these things to holographic level projection systems that allow them to physically, emotionally, audibly interact with things at higher planes of existence from the 3D and have manifested these spiritual capacities into their technology.
Alan Steinfeld
So is there a timeline? Because besides people’s own evolution, the Earth itself has a timeline, a grid, an agenda I think as a conscious being, and is also shifting, the Earth-ascending theory is vibrating our Earth bodies to a greater capacity, opening up new neurological potentials, awakening our spiritual ideas, our spiritual faculties. So there seems to be an acceleration, I’m saying. So what kind of timeline do you see in the next 20, 50, 100 years?
Adam Apollo
Yeah, well I think it’s pretty tough to call. It’s pretty tough to call. I, for a long time, was looking at, I had that contact experience in 2005.
Alan Steinfeld
Can you tell me what happened in that contact experience? Sorry not to digress, but what…
Adam Apollo
It’s definitely a longer story than we have time for on this, but I do have aspects of that story shared in videos online, people can find those from me online. And I’m happy to do another interview with you in which I just tell you a long galactic story if you want it.
Alan Steinfeld
Well we’ll do that in person at Contact in the Desert. So okay, let’s go back to the timeline, what do you see?
Adam Apollo
Yeah, so in that day in 2005, you know, on September 3rd, I had a very strong sense that we had a huge potential to be able to over the next seven years accelerate things enough if we could go global enough with the movement, with awareness, with things, that we could shift the tides by 2012 and in 2012 actually have galactic contact experience. I think that there was a lot of people on board for that.
Alan Steinfeld
I think it happened in some ways. I do think something happened in 2012.
Adam Apollo
There was a huge amount of breakthroughs that happened in 2012 without a doubt. I mean I founded Unify with a couple brothers and we got all these sacred sites synchronized all over the planet with millions of people meditating at the same time. I was in the pyramids in Egypt, my friend Mark was running Stonehenge, and I had homies in Jerusalem, and I had homies in Chichen Itza, and we were all over the planet synchronizing these waves. So we did accomplish a great deal in 2012. But around 2009, my big picture trajectory for how quickly we were going to pull off the new technologies and actually go towards contact, something drastically shifted that year. I’ve had to spend a significant amount of time reviewing the timeline so to speak to see what bridged and what went off and how things…
Alan Steinfeld
What did you see that went off? What changed?
Adam Apollo
You know, I think that there was a massive energetic impulse that affected the planet that year and I think it was probably initiated through a major accelerator project like CERN possibly, that literally put us as some people would say, into an alternate timeline. But I don’t describe it that way because I don’t actually look at multiple timelines as simultaneously existing. I believe that the timeline that we experience, the flow of our soul’s experience, is the one true flow that we can possibly have. And that if we’re projecting that something else was or could be, then we’re actually creating a branch of energy that’s eventually going to be lost because it’s never going to go anywhere unless it meets back to now. You can’t go back and change something that you did years ago and then somehow everything that’s happened since is going to change and adapt to that. It’s just not going to work, as much as you may fantasize about changing the thing that happened in the past. But the reality is that you can accept what has happened in the past and you can actually understand more deeply why what has happened is leading to the thing that is happening now. And that is actually getting in touch with the perfection of the flow. So I’ve got a little bit less prophetic about, oh we’re going to do it by this date, or we’re going to do it by this time. I set my own goals. But my sense is that there is this beautiful natural unfolding process in which consciousness is doing its own alchemy. We’re facing our shadows one layer at a time. We’re facing our resistance one layer at a time. And as we’re doing that, it’s unlocking and unfolding the insights that we need to have the breakthroughs we need to get where we’re going. Like for example, my friend Robert Grant, a guy that I work with, amazing brilliant mathematician, solved some things in math and science this year that are absolutely going to change everything, but we can’t even tell anybody about them yet until later this year because they’re so disruptive. I mean it’s huge disruption that’s created by these new mathematical and scientific codes.
Alan Steinfeld
We need the disruption, we do.
Adam Apollo
We do, we do, and in the right timing and with the right transitional efforts and strategies in play. So it’s like, got to do it right, you can’t just crash the whole thing and otherwise it’s just chaos. So Robert was in the King’s Chamber of the Great Pyramid and he was there with me not this last year but the year before when I was there with 144 of my delegate students in the Resonance Academy. And he was a new fresh faculty member in our team. And he went back to Egypt because he became friends with the Inspector General of the Giza Plateau who he downloaded with a bunch of stuff and the guy thought that Allah had sent him. And so he goes back because he’s friends with this guy and he’s able to stay in the King’s Chamber for three nights, three full days and nights. And on the third day as he’s in there, he’s laying in the sarcophagus and he has this massive vision and he gets up and he looks down and in the side of the resonance chamber, the sarcophagus chamber, he sees an alpha and an omega symbol carved into the resonance chamber. Now nobody’s ever seen that before. Nobody’s ever found any symbols in the King’s Chamber ever.
Alan Steinfeld
In the sarcophagus you’re talking about or on the walls?
Adam Apollo
On the actual edge of the box itself, the sarcophagus, the stone sarcophagus. He takes pictures of it and then he measures it, he uses a laser measuring device because he was doing some stuff for our other friend Alan Green, and sure enough, the thing is mathematically perfect. It’s exactly the right distance from the side that’s the same as the proportion to the whole chamber and the alpha and the omega have an exact proportional relationship with each other. And so here’s this thing that was right there the whole time in the King’s Chamber that nobody saw until all of a sudden there it is and the guy that sees it is also the guy who has this incredible mathematical breakthrough that’s now going to influence many many things in this coming year.
Alan Steinfeld
That’s amazing. Maybe there was a time shift where suddenly those figures appeared and that we took a different time direction, whatever. Anyway, that has huge implications you’re saying mathematically.
Adam Apollo
It absolutely does, and not only that, but we also discovered that when they found that new chamber in the pyramid, the one that they’re still trying to get in and excavate to explore, they found that new chamber literally the day after we got out of having 144 people in all three pyramids resonating them at the same time over 12 hours under the full moon. And we came out of there and the next day they announced that they find a new chamber in the pyramid. So what I’m saying is that through our capacity to do this higher level work with each other, to go really deep into the meditation, really deep into what we say is the inner world, we actually can change the conditions of what it’s possible for us to perceive in the outer world. Just as it takes somebody going through often a big spiritual breakthrough and then they go outside at night, one night, and all of a sudden they start seeing ships all the time. Like shooting stars at first, and then it curves and it comes down, it blinks at them and they get a transmission. And you know what, they were always there. But for the first time, their consciousness was at a level that they could now perceive them, they were sensitive enough. And they were open enough to receiving the communication, the contact that needed to happen.
Alan Steinfeld
Right. Well, that leads us to the other part of your lecture about actually driving starships. And how do we… I mean I appreciate all the research and all the insights you’re giving us, and it’s going to be very exciting to have you at Contact expanding on this. So with this flying starships, I mean, I understand that sort of, but when you talk about being in control and being on board and actually flying them through consciousness, explain that and how explain how that is important for us, because I think it is.
Adam Apollo
My deeper intensive at Contact in the Desert, I call it the Body Starship. And what it’s really about is it’s at the core level, it’s really just deep Jedi training. It’s about actually accessing these levels of consciousness and awareness through your body and applying them as magical capacities, as the ability to astral travel, astral project, as the ability to balance your own internal energetic engines and enhance your performance, your flow states. There is so much that we have access to that can actually improve our lives on a day-to-day basis.
Alan Steinfeld
What do we do to what do we have to do to do that though? Give us specifics about…
Adam Apollo
Yeah, absolutely. So what I’m going to talk about is literally physiological, energetic, emotional, and mental practices that can actually turn on these deeper levels of perception. So some of that involves movement and learning how to move energy through your body in certain ways. It also involves creating certain mental constructs or geometries of the mind that allow the emotional field to move in certain ways that maybe it didn’t before. And then it’s linking those to applications and experiences. Whether that’s you playing sports or working out or having sex or playing games or going into a business meeting, how do you change and shape the field of your energetic starship in a way to meet those challenges in your life at the highest level of performance possible. Because until I can give you a starship to get in and pilot, you’re going to need to be training along the way. And this is one of the reasons I created the Guardian Alliance many years ago is to just get people training in higher metaphysical skills in order to begin building the network of people that would have the capacity to be ready as ambassadors for this changing era.
Alan Steinfeld
But you’ve flown starships, I mean you’ve been in them, you’ve used your consciousness. Talk about what happened for you. I know you’re training people who haven’t been there, but talk about how that worked for you.
Adam Apollo
Yeah absolutely. So one of the things that I, you know, we’re in a really really beautiful technological transition that we’ll make at some point is the revolution of augmented reality. Right now AR is pretty weak, right? So if you’ve ever put on a HoloLens, which I have many times and seen interactive art installations with them, it’s basically like you would expect that it would be filling your vision with some overlay of something, but right now the tech is just like a box, there’s this little box that you can see the digital world in, but the rest of your vision’s normal and it’s just not very realistic. But there’s a certain pattern of a few breakthroughs that I think we’ll have in the AR space that allows us to display virtual information and objects in the space around us almost as real as if it was actually physically there, right? And you can also do that with certain kinds of holographic systems. In the advanced ships that I’ve been in, the experience is literally that what the ship is doing is it’s reading your own electrodynamic system inside your body and your brain waves, and it’s literally giving you a holographic projection that is constrained a little bit. It’s not just showing you anything. It’s constraining what it’s showing you to the visual command system that you need in order to pilot that ship. So for example, I would be in the ship, I close my eyes or literally just relax back or you can even keep your eyes open. A lot of times I would close my eyes, and then literally think of the planet that I want to travel to, and the star system that I want to travel to. So I think of Sirian system, boom, there’s two stars. Boom, I zoom in, here’s the planet that I want to go to, it’s a very Earth-like planet where there’s a lot of humanoid elven beings. And now that I see that planet, the computer system can provide me with a visual representation from its databanks, and from my being providing the ping, so to speak, to that object and that location. And now I’m scanning that planet and that area for a space to jump to. And by just doing that and putting my consciousness there, the ship knows I’m doing it. And also there’s beings in the polar region of the Sirian home planet who are literally providing an air traffic control for the local star system, and they tune into the fact that there’s suddenly an astral projection happening in their atmosphere that is an intention of a ship jump, right? Because it’s got my frequency, but I’ve also magnified that with the computer feedback system, so they’re picking it up, I’m picking it up, and now I’m in a telepathic dialogue where they’re helping me position the spot to jump to that’s free from other ships. And then once I find that spot, there’s now a lock-in that happens where the exact frequency relationship of my distance from the local stars in that area, and specifically the local pulsars in that area, is transcribed through the ship’s location back to my consciousness, which then tells the ship, this is the harmonic frequency set that exists in this particular space-time location. And with that information, the ship can spin up the jump drive and then basically match the harmonics of the outside rings of the ship to the harmonics in that exact location of the relative pulsar frequencies to that spot just off the planet. And then as soon as those frequencies match, the ship is there. And it just is automatically existing.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, I get that. I think I get that. But the one big question is, if your consciousness is astrally projecting, why do you need a ship in the first place? Because it’s all consciousness.
Adam Apollo
Because I want to take my friends! I want to, but you’re astrally… you’re in the astral body, you’re in the non-physical body. I astral travel to other planets all the time. It’s sure, it’s great, but I want to eat the food. I want to lay on the beach.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh, so you’re not just astrally, you’re actually in a density of a physical form.
Adam Apollo
That’s right, I want to go there with my body, right? And I want to take my friends there in their bodies, right? I want to hang out and shake hands.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, I would like to do that too. Are you going to be doing that at Contact?
Adam Apollo
Absolutely, happy to shake your hand, Alan.
Alan Steinfeld
No, but you’ve been there in your physical body you’re saying, to these other star systems, is that it?
Adam Apollo
I have been to other star systems in the physical in other lifetimes. But this lifetime I’ve generally, I’ve made physical contact with a being, and then I’ve astrally traveled and explored a lot of these worlds. Because I have to develop that technology in myself to be able to be ready to build starships. So that’s what you’re working on, really, is that inner technology, which is very interspersed with consciousness itself. So we have to fine-tune this consciousness, like you said earlier, look at all those fundamental things that are in the way of us accessing those higher consciousness states if we’re going to manifest the body in these higher dimensional realms and meet those other beings because they’re not exactly in this physical dimensional space.
Adam Apollo
Well they are. I mean, that’s the other thing that, you know, I’ll just say for any of you coming to Contact in the Desert, you’ll probably hear a lot of stuff about ninth-dimensional Arcturians and fifth-dimensional beings. And the assumption is generally that these beings are not on the physical plane, that they’re somehow vibrating at a higher level than the physical. But let me tell you something about dimensionality in physics. When you go to a higher dimension, you do not lose lower dimensions. Just because your consciousness is able to operate on the astral, operate at the ketheric, operate at the akashic plane, travel the spiritual world, go to the celestial heavens, doesn’t mean you’re going to lose your physical body. And in fact, if that was the goal, then we would all just die, right? We’d all just take the Hale-Bopp comet and kill ourselves.
Alan Steinfeld
That’s not what we want to do. We want to embody on those dimensional worlds.
Adam Apollo
That’s right, you want to develop your consciousness so you’re integrated at the higher levels of consciousness, able to work with them just as easily as the physical, and master the physical through doing that. And that is what a lot of these other species have done. They evolved on planets, they figured out how to evolve their consciousness, and they’ve mastered their physical world through that development.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, thanks. I look forward to seeing you at Contact in the Desert. That is coming up, for everyone listening, May 31st to June 3rd in Indian Wells, California, which is right outside of Palm Springs. You can go to contactinthedesert.com and get tickets. Get early bird tickets right now as soon as you hear this interview because you want everyone who can to be there. Because this is not just about researchers and presenters, I find the energy of the people coming are contributing to a higher level of consciousness. There’s actually a feeling of love there. I felt that at this last contact last year. So people like you and everyone’s coming along is raising the frequency. So this is why we need as many people there as we can in order to kind of bring up the collective consciousness to a new level of awakening. So it’s very exciting. Linda Moulton Howe will be there, Richard Dolan, Nassim Haramein, Russell Targ who created remote viewing along with Hal Puthoff at the Stanford Research Institute. I would say everyone who has had an impact in the field of higher consciousness, UFOs, leading edge research will be there. Whitley Strieber, one of my favorite contactees. Mary Rodwell from Australia. So just look at contactinthedesert.com. You’ll see who’s there. I’ll be there hosting, emceeing, doing panels. So thank you. Thank you, Adam, and we’ll be in touch.
Adam Apollo
Thanks, Alan. See you guys then. Look at my YouTube channel, youtube.com/newrealities and send me an email at newrealities@earthlink.net. You’ve been watching New Realities.
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