New Realities recorded on September 4, 2007
Summary
In this episode of New Realities, host Alan Steinfeld interviews Stephen Bassett, an advocate for exopolitics and the end of the extraterrestrial truth embargo. Bassett discusses the upcoming X-Conference in Washington, D.C., the imminent collapse of government secrecy regarding the ET presence, and how political shifts, particularly the 2008 U.S. election, could pave the way for a major disclosure event that will reshape humanity’s future. Steinfeld concludes by sharing information about other speakers at the upcoming conference.
Transcript
Alan Steinfeld
Welcome to New Realities. My name is Alan Steinfeld. And this program is dedicated to exploring evolving human potentials in an evolving world. This series explores the idea of how to become more conscious beings, how to live in a more conscious way on a planet that’s developing a greater possibility of who we are. Tonight’s guest is very much involved with that whole development of our potential as a human race. He is Steve Bassett. He is part of the exopolitics forum. There’ll be a conference coming up in Washington, September 14th to the 16th. You can go to paradigmresearchgroup.org and you’ll find all the information there. Steve, thank you.
Steve Bassett
Hi Alan, it’s great to be with you.
Alan Steinfeld
I know there’s this conference coming up, but how have you been since the last conference I saw you at? You want to talk about where you’ve been recently?
Steve Bassett
Since the ex-conference in 2005 ended, I had to take a bit of a sabbatical because we lost a lot of money in those first two conferences, nearly forty thousand. And so I came out to the Bay Area, East Bay Area in California, San Francisco. And I stayed there for 18 months working on the same things, but in a much more low-key environment. Washington had gotten incredibly cynical after the war got underway. And 2006 in particular was just an awful year.
Alan Steinfeld
Let’s talk about exopolitics. What I understand is exopolitics is a way of bringing out the idea of welcoming extraterrestrial races into a political forum. Is that how you would describe exopolitics?
Steve Bassett
In a way, yes. But exopolitics is in fact many things. Exopolitics is the new term within the lexicon, originally brought into play by Alfred Webre in 2000. And it is the defining term which is the umbrella for all of the subject matter surrounding the social and political implications of the ET phenomena, ET beings, and our government’s reaction to that. It’s a huge field. It will eventually be taught in universities, have its own department, maybe be a part of the political science department. So the disclosure process, the revealing process, government cover-ups, either all part of exopolitics. So that item you mentioned was one. Eventually, exopolitics will include what we’ll call galactic diplomacy, how we formally engage these extraterrestrials and so forth. But that’s basically the icing on the cake that’s still in the oven.
Alan Steinfeld
But don’t you think the reason we are not actually engaging them as far, I mean there’s this isolation, quarantine, subconscious revelation, I mean we’re not together as a planet. We are very disassociated and incoherent, not unified as a planet. How could we actually meet a galactic race or federation with our own fragmentation going on?
Steve Bassett
First of all, there’s no some sort of cosmic requirement that in order to learn about the ET presence, you have to have global unity. We’ve never had global unity, but we’ve actually done a lot of things. We launched a space program and we’ve created civilizations. Unity is probably impossible. What in fact, don’t think in terms of global consensus and unity. Think in terms of critical mass. In order for things to happen, you have to have a critical mass of consciousness in a certain area, a critical mass of awareness of something. The Copernican revolution, for instance, was launched by a very few people who had determined the nature of the sun and the Earth’s relationship. So we have more than that critical mass in our society right now regarding this phenomena. And as a result, this disclosure process, which is part of the exopolitics we discussed, is moving forward now at an accelerating pace, which will ultimately lead, I think very soon, to one of the world’s major governments, possibly ours, not necessarily ours, announcing the ET presence, formally announcing that presence, which is then the disclosure event and the beginning of what will be a whole new world, a whole new paradigm for us to deal with.
Alan Steinfeld
Absolutely, it’ll be a whole new paradigm. But didn’t France recently release some documents, and Brazil also have released some documents about UFO presence?
Steve Bassett
Exactly. France released 1,600 sighting cases from the French space agency. The UK released 4,000 sighting cases that had been classified files. Brazil has entered into sort of a formal arrangement with the ET researchers down there. All of this required the approval of the Ministry of Defense. Mexico did something similar. These are extraordinary circumstances, and what they all are is in fact a message from these countries to the United States that their patience with our truth embargo here is finally wearing out.
Alan Steinfeld
But why hasn’t Brazil just come out with it? According to Roger Leir, they have a whole craft their government has recovered. That whole case down in Brazil that Roger Leir investigated. They have the proof. Why don’t they just come out with that?
Steve Bassett
The ultimate answer to that question of course would be you’d have to ask Brazil. But I think it’s fair to say that the winning of the Cold War World War II, which America had a great deal to do with, and the saving of the world from the great communist threat, particularly the Soviet Union, we built up a lot of chits with the rest of the first world, second world countries. They owe us. And we are also a very powerful nation. And so we have been the leading power in the free world obviously since the end of the Second World War. And certainly that’s roughly the same today. And these countries have deferred to us, probably in private agreements, that we would be the decision maker on the issue of the ET reality. And for them to breach that understanding, there would be consequences. And they have not yet been ready for those consequences. But recently, they clearly are lost patience. And I think it’s not trivial that in the last six years, our image in the world, our esteem in the world has dramatically fallen for other reasons. And so we simply don’t, our chits are used up. And it’s possible they’re going, one of these countries, and probably the most likely country is China. Right, China may be the country that pops the cork on this bottle of Chateaux, UFO, 2007. And they will get the thousand year legacy of ending the cover up.
Alan Steinfeld
Right. But don’t you think it’s actually even beyond governments? It’s about whoever’s controlling the controlling forces, the ruling families. Those people really seem to be the shadow governments, let’s say. It’s not a congressman, it’s the forces behind that.
Steve Bassett
I’m not, my area is not shadow governments and Uber powers. However, I believe there are controlling interests. I also believe that the estimation of their power is probably overdone by those who are concerned with that and think about that. I think that these Uber powers are primarily concerned in their own interests, and as a result, there’s plenty that gets by them. And plenty they can’t deal with because it doesn’t immediately direct their own interests. So think of them more as well-entrenched narcissistic cabals as opposed to global operating uber authorities. This is a big planet, six billion people, trust me, it’s a chore to run the damn thing. So plenty happens that has nothing to do with some authoritative figure or some black magic cabal. History is very rich, and so the public’s interests are often served because the powers that be, the PTBs, can’t do it all. So right now they’re losing. The powers that be right now basically have been losing the later innings of the ball game.
Alan Steinfeld
As the ridiculous war in Iraq gets even more ridiculous, people are waking up that they might have some control over their lives and they have power to take back what true knowledge is as opposed to the lies we’ve been given. So I think in that camp, your research is gaining more ascendancy. It’s more possible to come forward. But the other aspect of that is that when these, when disclosure does happen or if and when, I’m sure it will happen in the next, I think it would happen next 10 to 20 years for sure. We can’t hide anymore. But there’s the whole idea of free energy, the energy these devices run on, it will be a great shock to the oil corporations and those are the people that I’ve heard is really suppressing the knowledge, the people invested in fossil fuels. Do you agree with that?
Steve Bassett
Not so much directly suppressing as supporting the managing entities within the government that wish to keep the embargo going. Meaning moral support, maybe helping to elect certain people into Congress. They don’t control it, but they certainly have a vested interest in keeping oil at the highest dollar price and selling as many barrels of oil at the highest possible price. Because once free energy or these advanced energy forms are put into play, right, their power begins to diminish. Although they can transition out, these people shouldn’t be too stupid. Look, they got 35 years to back out of the oil business, invest in something else, take all their trillions of dollars. Because they’re already richer than God to understand. So it’s not as if we had free energy tomorrow, they’re all gonna become poor, believe me, they’re all gonna die wealthier than you and I. But let me go back to something you said earlier, Alan. Look, your audience needs to know something. If they take away anything from our chat tonight, they need to take away this. These very simple points. Let me make them very clearly and unambiguously. There is an extraterrestrial presence engaging the planet. It’s not speculation. It’s a 100 percent certainty. The proof is overwhelming. I’ve had a number of people in government confirm it to me. Others in government have confirmed it to other of my colleagues. The research is massive. We’ve got boatloads of proof. So that’s a done deal. There is an extraterrestrial presence.
Alan Steinfeld
I’m totally with you on that. I’ve seen them. I’ve seen pictures. I know they’re here. I’ve had my own experience. I am totally 100 percent.
Steve Bassett
So I knew we were on the same train on that one. Now, the second point is the government is fully aware of this ET presence and has decided in the 40s to embargo the formality of it from the world’s people. That’s also a certainty. And then the third point your listeners need to take with them is this. The embargo of this truth by our government with deference from other nations is collapsing literally right now as we speak. It is falling apart, and that your listeners need to be prepared to hear this announcement of the ET presence as soon as tomorrow morning.
Alan Steinfeld
Why? Why as soon as what will that do?
Steve Bassett
Because when the building starts to collapse, you can speculate on how long it’ll take for the roof on your apartment to fall in. But you sort of have a sense that it’s going to fall in soon and it would be best not to stay in the room. But here’s another analogy. The embargo is like a huge apple, a ripened apple hanging at the top of an apple tree. And any reasonable person knows it could fall at any moment. Just the right breeze from the right direction and it falls. They don’t know for certain when it would fall, but if they stood under that apple, there’s a good chance it’s going to bonk them on top of the head. So I’m telling you, this thing is ripe and ready to go. And here’s another major example that you need to use for reference. And that is the fall of the collapse of the Soviet Union. Nobody believed it was going to happen. All the political scientists said it wasn’t. The Soviet structure had absolute rigid control of all the media, all the institutions, the military. There wasn’t a crack anywhere. It had been predicted, but nobody believed it because the enormous control they had over their society and citizens. Once the thing started to fall apart, it was inevitable. And when it finally fell, it fell so fast, the CIA didn’t even know it had happened. So think of the truth embargo’s collapse exactly in the way you would think of the Soviet Union’s collapse. It’s imminent, and it could happen at any time.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, the truth embargo then must also include the war, I mean so much government cover-ups on all levels. I mean it’s not just the UFO cover-up, although that may be really top, it’s everything. It’s everything we’ve been lied to. And I mean we don’t even know how many people were killed during the Katrina hurricane. The government won’t even release those numbers because it’s too embarrassing for them.
Steve Bassett
You’re right. You’ve just raised now the second reason why I have devoted my life to this work, and my colleagues have done the same. We learned along the way that inside the box that included the ET reality and the embargo was a whole boatload of abuses of power and secrecy by the first world nations, from the Soviet Union all the way through NATO to the United States. And it’s a mess. It’s ugly. It’s basically an outhouse. It’s a port-a-potty. And by ending the truth embargo and any ET question, the lid of that box will open just enough for us to get a suction hose into that box and suck the rest of the crap out of it. So it will in fact open up the door for the first major reform in our society, particularly at the level of secrecy in government, in the last 75 years. So there’s much more at stake here than just learning that the ETs are around. In fact, I think the future of America as a democratic republic is at stake.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, you also I heard on the Fox News report, I saw you were also supporting Hillary Clinton as a candidate that will come forward to expose, to give the, is that true? And why Hillary? And I know Bill Richardson is from New Mexico, from Roswell area, but why Hillary Clinton?
Steve Bassett
Almost. I’m not supporting her. What I did was I wrote an article recently called The ET Ticket, which Fox News was interested in. And essentially what I said was, looking at the 20 candidates that are currently in play, Democratic, Republican candidates, that are in the debates, there’s 20. And looking at the best possible pairing on either side for disclosure, that the Hillary Clinton-Bill Richardson ticket was the best ticket. And I gave the reasons for that in the article. I’m simply doing analysis here. I’m not wearing a Hillary Clinton button. But I also pointed out in the ET article, ET Ticket article, that ironically, but maybe not ironically, the most likely ticket, if you’re a political analyst like myself, that you would put your money on, meaning has the best odds, like in the Kentucky Derby, of emerging from either of the conventions is in fact the Hillary Clinton-Bill Richardson ticket, which I find a rather interesting historical coincidence.
Alan Steinfeld
But what, I didn’t actually read the article. Can you just give me a good reason why you think Hillary would go towards disclosure?
Steve Bassett
There are key things. Hillary Clinton was in the White House, obviously, with her husband in 1993, just after the inauguration, when Laurance Rockefeller approached the administration through John Gibbons at the Office of Science and Technology Policy to allow him to make a report and talk to Clinton directly in a public way about ending the cover-up by dumping the documents out. This was a decision Laurance had made, and he invested a good deal of money in this initiative, which went on for two years, and involved a lot of meetings and reports and books were written and blah blah blah. It eventually failed and dissipated in the milieu of the entire attack on the Clinton administration from all directions. Now, Hillary Clinton knew about this initiative and watched it unfold from the White House, along with Clinton’s one of Clinton’s chief and closest advisors, John Podesta. But we also know, and I have the news articles to prove it, that Hillary and Bill went and visited Laurance Rockefeller at his JY Ranch in Jackson Hole, Wyoming, in ’93, ’94 and ’95. Where it’s almost certain, but someone can make a counter-argument, that they talked with Rockefeller about this issue privately. She knows that something is going on. She saw something unfolding at that time. So did John Podesta. Now Bill Richardson, on the other hand, he, in the foreword to a book called The Roswell Dig Diaries, actually stated in that foreword that he didn’t believe the Roswell explanation that had been provided by the government, the most recent one. And that he asked essentially for disclosure. He said that this decision, this finding should be made yet, and that it needed to be reinvestigated, and went out of his way to point out that the American public had a right to know the truth and could handle the truth. That’s in direct opposition to the government’s stated policy. And when he wrote that foreword to that book, and you can find it on the internet, Roswell Dig Diaries, he knew that he was going to be running for president. Of course he’s not really running for president. Everybody in the know in Washington knows he’s running for vice president. And so he outed himself in 2005 on that foreword. And John Podesta then did the same thing in 2002 and 2003, when he supported and spoke at the National Press Club about the Coalition for Freedom of Information. So you have major Democratic figures who are tied together. They all know each other. Podesta knows Hillary, Hillary knows John, John knows Bill Richardson, and Bill is sitting in the background watching it all like a Cheshire cat. They know that something’s going on. They partially outed themselves. Can you see why a Hillary Clinton-Bill Richardson ticket makes for a very interesting disclosure cocktail?
Alan Steinfeld
Well, I think yeah, I think someone whoever was president and came forward with this information would be a very popular and honored president. And I think, yeah, if she does know about it and was able to outrun the people that want to keep this shut down, I think she could do it. I have a good feeling about her. I’ve met Bill Richardson, he’s a really nice guy. He spoke at my graduation from acupuncture school in Santa Fe and that was good. Yeah, so I think also though he does have as governor of New Mexico he must have access to some Roswell documents though that other people don’t, wouldn’t you say that?
Steve Bassett
No, he doesn’t have access to documents. But he was the Secretary of Energy. The Ambassador to the UN, and he’s a high guy. He’s well liked. He has plenty of people that can tip him off on this. He’s just been tipped off. He knows the ET issue is real as does Hillary, as does Bill, as does John Podesta. The Democrats are almost a lock to win the next election. And so it is for this reason that I believe that Democrats are in fact planning to disclose under their next quote democratic administration. I believe Podesta, the reason Podesta outed himself in 2002 and 2003 is they firmly believed they were going to win in 2004. Well, they didn’t. So then Podesta stepped back, said very little after that. And it was Bill Richardson that came and outed himself in this forward to the book, the next time around, anticipating a win in 2008. But let me make another point. The president that does do this will receive a legacy that will be one of the greatest political legacies of all time. That president will be revered throughout all of history. That president will become a Churchillian, a Rooseveltian figure. And that legacy is available to whoever takes the mantle. And that’s one reason why it could happen tomorrow because can you think of a president right now that is in desperate, almost frenetic need of a powerful legacy?
Alan Steinfeld
Well no, I agree. Nixon was credited as opening up China despite the horrible reputation and political career he had. He’s still acknowledged as the one who opened the door there.
Steve Bassett
Absolutely. And he got a lot of credit for that. And think of that legacy, the opening of China, and assign that a point of say one, call that one point. The disclosure president will get 10,000 points.
Alan Steinfeld
I totally agree with you. But if Hillary knew then why didn’t Bill Clinton come forward in the 90s with this information?
Steve Bassett
Very interesting. I’ve talked about this at length. Rockefeller approached the administration virtually in the second month of the administration. And I believe the moment that the military intelligence complex learned that this initiative is underway, they went absolutely bonkers. And that one of the great untold stories of the Clinton administration is that the massive attacks that were generated from the right against them, funded primarily by Richard Mellon Scaife, going after every conceivable thing. Pork bellies, travelgate, you name it. I mean if Hillary put a miscolored braid that didn’t match her blouse, they would launch an impeachment hearing. That one of the reasons they acted so inappropriately, and a lot of the press admitted this, they didn’t understand why these attacks were going on. It was much ado about nothing as far as they were concerned. It was a hidden story. They were trying to essentially denude the president, use up all his political capital so that to prevent Clinton from ever having enough leverage to in fact exercise the disclosure option. And they kept him under fire. Now here’s a side story that supports that. During the Rockefeller initiative, Clinton said nothing, but one thing he did do, which later came out, was that he instructed his Associate Attorney General, close personal friend Webster Hubbell from Arkansas, who he appointed to justice, to ask about the UFO issue over at justice and see what he could find. Hubbell did more than that. He called up NORAD and some other agencies and was making queries. Well, you can imagine that really shook up the troops at cover-up central. And so very quickly after that, Hubbell came under indictment for everything including the sinking of the Maine. And so that’s an example of why I believe there was a massive counter-attack on the Clinton administration. Not because they hated him, they did. Not because he was an awful president, he wasn’t. He made a lot of them rich. But because there was no way the military intelligence community was going to allow Clinton to be the disclosure president. And so they founded him right up until the day he left, including obviously an impeachment.
Alan Steinfeld
Yeah but what makes you think they’re gonna allow that to happen now with Hillary? What has changed?
Steve Bassett
The state of the Republican party as of March of 2009, will be the equivalent of a pack of starving cocker spaniels compared to the Republican party of 1993. They have been eviscerated by their own mistakes, their own arrogance, their own follies. And so they will have almost no power, and I predict that the Democrats in fact will win a two-thirds veto-proof majority of the House and Senate in 2008.
Alan Steinfeld
So the military industrial complex will not have the power coming up in 2008 that they had in 93, 94. That’s what you’re saying.
Steve Bassett
The Republican neocon empire will have crumbled, and so their ability to influence the military, which is fundamentally patriotic, and I believe serves in the interest of the American people. They will not be able to influence them and force them to act counter to their own best interest in the American people’s interests. And I think you’ll see an emerging body of patriots within the military intelligence community coming forward and helping to drive what will ultimately be the disclosure process. The disclosure event, unless of course France or England or China or Canada does it first.
Alan Steinfeld
But okay, let me ask you a bigger philosophical question. Are we ready? Are we ready to embrace a reality that totally blows away most people’s religious and just their sense of what reality is. People live in a very small box of their own reality. Are we ready for this?
Steve Bassett
There’s two things to be said about that. One is that once again what is important is not that all of us are ready, but that a reasonable, what I would call critical mass of people are ready. And I believe that critical mass is more than established. But the second point is probably even more important. It no longer matters whether we’re ready or not. It’s like the Catholic Church basically said in the 1500s, our flock is not ready to hear that the Earth goes around the sun, so we’ll just embargo that information. Well, that was like standing on the side of the ocean and spitting into the tide. There was no way they could prevent that truth from eventually emerging, and that was before the Internet. So it no longer matters whether we’re ready or not. This information, which is simply a statement about the way the world is, which is we aren’t alone and there’s more civilizations out there, is simply gonna come out. Period. And so if you’re not ready, get ready.
Alan Steinfeld
But don’t you think the UFOs, the ETs, whoever they are, are somewhat complicit in the cover up? They haven’t landed on the White House lawn, if we’re gonna use that cliché, but aren’t they waiting or maybe they don’t care if it’s revealed. What’s your opinion about that?
Steve Bassett
That’s a very astute statement. I’ve heard it many, many times, and it gets to the core of one of the key exopolitical questions. Why haven’t the ETs forced majeure disclosure, which they could do at any time they wanted to. Right, an independent event scenario. They certainly can do it, and they haven’t, and that’s a very valid question. It’s a tremendous question. I don’t know the answer for certain. I can only give you my assessment. Based on all the evidence we know the way they operate, the psychology of sightings and everything else, here is my best explanation. What we’re going through today right now is a cosmic bar mitzvah. We’re coming of age as a planet and we have no choice in that. Just like a kid has no choice in becoming 13 years old and he gets bar mitzvahed by his mother and his dad. That’s the way it is. Doesn’t mean that after his bar mitzvah, he’s now a full grown adult. So this bar mitzvah happens to every sentient civilization in the galaxy. And it’s happening to us now.
Alan Steinfeld
I agree, I love that. I love that analogy.
Steve Bassett
But there’s a process that you go through here, and I think it’s been repeated countless times throughout the galaxy. You don’t just suddenly show up with a bunch of saucers over the cities of a planet with 200 nations and 6 billion people and destroy the social contract by making every government look like idiots. First, you force a self-disclosure process by sort of appearing, but not conclusively. You drive that self-disclosure process until the nations of that planet acknowledge to themselves and to their own people that the ETs are here. Then, once they’ve taken the embargo off and the universities jump in, the foundations jump in, the money turns up, the research goes on, the documentaries are made, the movies are made, the books are written, and everybody goes ET nuts for three or four years until they’re sick of the issue, right? And everybody’s kind of up to speed and it’s like, oh, no big deal. And then formal contact can take place without the social disruption. That’s the reason why they have not landed on the White House lawn yet.
Alan Steinfeld
I like that picture that you paint. So now as we, let’s look down the road of exopolitics. Are peace treaties enacted? What is the progression? And so how do we deal as a planet with this presence? What do you propose?
Steve Bassett
Well, I gotta say that when you have a paradigm shift of that magnitude, it’s tough to kind of project yourself on the other side of that. It’s like asking the Jews after they were released from Egypt and Rameses, okay, look, you’re going to be roaming the desert for 40 years, what do you plan to do when you get to the river Jordan? All I can say is this, the entire world will be sort of rebuilt in, after disclosure takes place. All of human history will be re-examined with the extraterrestrial hypothesis as a full-blown variable. And we will kind of reconstruct our reality in a hopefully an orderly fashion. Businesses will money will change hands. New business will be created. Other businesses will attenuate. There will be enormous interest in science and math with kids lined up around the block for miles trying to get into those programs, interested in space, enormous interest in ETs. You will have a global focus on this issue unlike anything that’s ever been seen in the history of humankind here. And hopefully the good guys will move to the forefront and help make some sense and make lemonade as they can out of these lemons. But there’s no guarantee. In fact, the bad guys could use this leverage and pull some bait and switches and razzle dazzle, smoke and mirrors. And next thing you know, we’re involved in some galactic war with beings that could turn our planet into a smoking heap of radioactive ash in 20 minutes. And that would not be a good thing. So that’s why I’m doing these interviews right now.
Alan Steinfeld
Have you approached the UN and put together some proposal for that as a body of unified nations, is any work been done that?
Steve Bassett
Oh yeah. A lot of people have approached the UN going way back 30 years including Gordon Cooper. Alfred Webre is now involved with the UN. He’s gonna be at my ex-conference. Antonio Huneeus is gonna be at my ex-conference. He was involved in approaching the UN. The UN has been so diminished by deliberate American policy that it’s kind of a non-factor in the world right now, which was a big mistake. But yeah, that is a significant exopolitical issue. And I should mention that some of the people that have approached the UN in the past will be at the conference, September 14th through 16th. We’ve got lots of room for people that want to get to DC and come to this extraordinary event. All the information is at x-conference.com. That’s x-conference.com. You can read everything about it and sign up right there. So I hope we’ll get some of your folks out and get involved with us and send a message to Washington. That’s why I hold the conference there.
Alan Steinfeld
Well are you inviting any congress people to the conference?
Steve Bassett
All of the congress will be formally invited within a few days. I just have to get back to Washington from California to get the invites out. And if they can’t come, I’m asking them to send their staff. And we’re inviting all the presidential candidates to come and give us 20 minutes of their time.
Alan Steinfeld
That would be great. It’s also on www.paradigmresearchgroup.org for some more information there. Can you just tell a little bit about your own story? Where did you come from? How did the UFO presence appear in your life? What was your development?
Steve Bassett
Long and short, I started out in physics. I got a degree in physics. I was going to continue in astrophysics, but I was kind of an unhappy guy. It was during the Vietnam War period, and so I sort of spiraled off in other directions. I got involved in finance, business, consulting, nothing particularly interesting. But the issue was always with me.
Alan Steinfeld
From a childhood this issue was always with you?
Steve Bassett
Oh yeah. I read nothing but science fiction when I was a kid, and I knew as early as when I was 19 that UFOs were ETs. It was obvious to me they were ETs. I couldn’t understand why there was such a debate about it. And that was 1965.
Alan Steinfeld
But did you have your own experiences though?
Steve Bassett
No, no. I had no experiences. My interest in the subject is intellectual and ethical. And most of my passion comes not from wanting to know the ETs are here, I already know that. My passion comes from what I’ve learned about the damage that’s been done to America and the American dream and our constitutional republic by the vast secret empire that was created in 1947. And so I’m concerned for the nation.
Alan Steinfeld
So you were kind of doing these other things, and when did it become your passion? What was the trigger point that pushed you into this work?
Steve Bassett
One day, ironically enough, I got up, I looked around and said, “My God, I’m gonna die.” It was like, up until then I thought there was a good chance I could live forever. And then I realized I wasn’t. And if I didn’t make an effort to involve myself in something that I truly wanted to do and was important, it wasn’t going to happen. A lot of people in your audience have reached those points, and they’re thinking about it right now. And when you get to that point, it’s amazing how fast you can get your button in gear. And I did. And I plunged into the issue in January of ’96 when I went to volunteer as a development person for John Mack’s Program for Extraordinary Experience Research in Cambridge. And after four months, I went to Washington, set up an office starting on July the 4th of 1996. I founded Paradigm Research Group and registered as the first lobbyist in history on this issue. And since then, everything I’ve done has been a political advocacy tool to drive the process of disclosure and lead to disclosure. So that’s the story in a few words, Alan.
Alan Steinfeld
No, I really appreciate your passion and dedication to this because we need someone like you to really keep moving it out there. Keep being on the news. I mean, that was an awful thing the Fox News people did, was not even take your points seriously.
Steve Bassett
Ah, but Alan, let me tell you. No, they did exactly what I wanted to do. It was perfect. But I understand why you may not have got that. It’s okay. I’m maneuvering here in areas that most people are not aware of. Look, they contacted me. I told them about my ET Ticket article. They loved the idea, after all it’s Fox News. So they put me on camera while I was down in Roswell. I didn’t have a monitor so I didn’t even know what they were doing. I learned later that as soon as they asked me the ET Ticket question, they popped a graphic up there of Hillary and Bill Richardson with a saucer between them. Well, that’s exactly what I wanted. Because I know as soon as the operatives, the aides and advisors to Hillary Clinton and Bill Richardson saw that, right, and watch, they probably coughed up a furball because the last thing they wanted was Hillary to be associated with the UFO issue. And then you know what happened after that? Two days later, William Booth, the reporter for the Washington Post, wrote a full page cover article, front page Washington Post, Sunday July 8th, and parked me in the first two paragraphs, talked about my political action committee, talked about my work, started mentioning a lot of the exopolitical lexicon. And then later in the article referred to Hillary Clinton and Bill Richardson as the ET ticket. So now, after the Fox thing, the advisors to these two candidates then open up the Post and there it is again. So I mean, there’s furballs all over the place. They are not happy, and I intend to make them even more unhappy. And there’s a simple point here, and I hope your listeners appreciate this. Anybody who aspires to be the President of the United States, but doesn’t think the presence of extraterrestrials is an issue of significance is not worthy of the office. And it doesn’t matter whether you want to be the first woman president or the first black president or the first Hispanic president or the first Jewish president or the first Mormon president, it doesn’t matter. If you can’t talk about this issue, and a lot of others, by the way, because there’s a whole list of things they can’t talk about because it’ll lose some votes, right? Because they don’t want to really have to work hard to get in office. And then once they get in office, they want us to leave them alone so they can just be in office, which is why America is going to the dogs right now. So it doesn’t matter. What matters is if they have the guts to speak to every issue that’s out there. Even if their position is, absolutely nothing to the ET presence, I’m certain of that, then fine, let them say that. Let us be the judge. But if their attitude is, oh no, I won’t say anything, I’ll skate by the issue, then I don’t want them in charge of 10,000 nuclear weapons. Does anybody in your audience want that?
Alan Steinfeld
Right, so have you ever talked to Hillary Clinton directly about this?
Steve Bassett
I’ve never met her. I’ve seen her in person. I’ve never talked to her about the issue, but believe me I’ve sent plenty of stuff to her and I’m sure that she knows who I am and what I’m doing.
Alan Steinfeld
So do you think maybe disclosure tried to happen before or some gauging of the public’s reaction may have been around like the Orson Welles War of the Worlds? Was that some kind of government or secret government seeing what the public’s reaction would be? Do you think there was anything there?
Steve Bassett
That was a product of Orson Welles’ genius, but the government used that broadcast that was essentially, remember, the War of the Worlds was a broadcast set in current time. In other words, they designed it to look like real news. It wasn’t presented as a fiction piece. At the beginning, people missed the beginning, thought it was a news program. And so a lot of people panicked, believing that the Earth was under attack, primarily the East Coast. So the government has basically pointed to the Welles broadcast over the decades essentially saying, see, look, the public will panic if we tell them about this. And my position is, that is a propaganda piece, the whole thing is bogus.
Alan Steinfeld
Right, I know it’s bogus, but you don’t think it was. Look how the public react, it was hysteria.
Steve Bassett
No, no, what I’m saying is, the using of that incident as a justification for a truth embargo is bogus. What Welles did was create a phony, fake news broadcast that made people think it was live and real, announcing ETs were here. Well, of course they’re gonna get upset. Look, if ABC were to put a fake news program on tomorrow night saying that a meteor was about to hit the Earth and they had Ted Koppel there, giving a point-by-point analysis, I can tell you there’d be people running around in the streets with their hair on fire. I mean, it’s irrelevant. It was a fake broadcast. So the government used that as an excuse that people are easily panicked by a fake news broadcast that’s deliberately made to look real, that well we can’t tell them the truth about ETs and about oil and about overpopulation and depleted uranium and global warming and 10,000 other things that they’d rather not talk about. Right, because running the government is no longer what they do. Staying in office, hiring prostitutes, and generally making fools of themselves is pretty much all they do now.
Alan Steinfeld
So we’re going to need a new president coming with new energy. And what I see, and tell me if it’s what you see, some president standing in front of on television, addressing the American people saying, this is a major moment in human history and this is what I have to tell you. Is that how you see it happening, disclosure?
Steve Bassett
That’s the ideal. Though the president probably won’t make the announcement. The president will announce the press conference from the Oval Office, then it will shift to the press conference in another location. There’ll be an important person moderating that press conference. They will then announce it. This depoliticizes the initial event, so it’ll be more along those lines. And it could happen and yeah, and that administration would then become the disclosure administration, and the legacy of that event would go to them for all time. If I were the current president, and I am a registered Independent and my work is non-partisan, but if I was the current president and I was looking at the legacy that he’s facing, I would be looking around for another legacy as fast as I could. And this legacy is right there, all he has to do is pick it up.
Alan Steinfeld
But don’t you think whoever a president or whoever the administration would have to then provide proof, and then they’d have to say, look, we lied about Roswell, we lied about the crash recovered saucers. I mean there’s a bunch of lies and dark, shadowy stuff that’s gonna come out because of the disclosure.
Steve Bassett
But Alan, think, it’s 2007. Most of the people who started the embargo are dead. Right. Most of the initial fundamental lies were by other administrations.
Alan Steinfeld
So they will have to come out with some proof though, in a press conference. What do you think they would picture, or the craft, what?
Steve Bassett
The citizen science movement has huge boxes full of proof. What the government has, I can’t even imagine. But just start with the gun camera footage from the chase planes that have been going up to intercept these craft for 50 years. They’ve got hundreds of miles of that stuff. Not a single inch of it has ever been put public. They could show gun camera footage, and that would be the ball game. I think of other things. I mean, believe me, when the press conference is over, there won’t be a single person in the United States except for the hardest core who think, oh, that’s another charade. No, no, no, this is not something you can fake. So don’t worry about that problem.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh, it’s very, very exciting. This is, we are building towards this moment in history, which everything after disclosure will be totally different than it was before disclosure.
Steve Bassett
The event is in fact, and will be the most profound event in human history. And the fact that all of us are alive today when this is going to happen, and that to me is an unbelievable stroke of luck. I’m just ecstatic that I’m going to see this. And you’re going to see it.
Alan Steinfeld
How soon do you predict a disclosure? Like in the next two years, one year?
Steve Bassett
My core position, which is why I set the paradigm clock at paradigmresearchgroup.org at 15 seconds to midnight, a year and a half, 18 months ago, is that disclosure is now imminent and the embargo could collapse at any time, and you could have it at any moment. Strategically, I believe the Democrats are planning disclosure in the early months of their new administration in 2009, when they will have enormous power, enormous political capital, and very likely both houses of the House and Senate. It’s an ideal situation for them. So that’s my current call. Is it certain? No, of course not.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay, I mean thank you so much, Steve, for all the work you’re doing, and the conference will be coming up September 14th to 16th. It’s open to everybody, and you can go to exopolitics… what’s the website? Because I have your Paradigm Research Group website up.
Steve Bassett
Site is paradigmresearchgroup.org and there’s links to the x-conference. Let’s go right to x-conference.com. Look at the conference, there’s a registration section there, you can register by mail, by phone, you can register by PayPal, whatever. Still plenty of room. The hotel block is almost done so you better book a room right away. And we’re going to have a pretty substantial event there. And then we’re going to have another one in April of next year in the middle of the primaries, the presidential primaries, April 18th through 20th at the same hotel, it’ll be the fourth x-conference. So we’re doing everything we can to get this issue into play, including putting YouTube questions in play for the CNN YouTube debates and the iCaught debates that Stephanopoulos is hosting. We’re gonna get this question parked under the noses of these candidates before this interminably long cycle is over. And they’re gonna have to say something one way or the other. And we need your audience’s help. If they’re at a town hall, ask the question. If they know some media in their community, demand they ask the question. We want to know what their position is on the ET issue. If they can’t even dignify it with an answer, then we shouldn’t dignify them with our vote.
Alan Steinfeld
Thank you, Steve. I hope to see you at the conference. Good luck. I hope we get a tremendous amount of people to build public support for all this disclosure information.
Steve Bassett
Thanks, Alan. You’ve been a great help. Good luck with your show. I know it’s going to grow and perhaps I’ll see some of your people there.
Alan Steinfeld
I hope you will. Yes. Peace.
Steve Bassett
I’ll talk to you, I’ll email you this week.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay. Thanks, Steve. I’ve been talking to Steve Bassett of the Disclosure Project, of the Exopolitics Forum. That will be coming up September 14th to the 16th. And some of the other people at that conference coming up will be Richard Dolan, who is an author of UFOs and the National Security Act, Chronology of the Cover-Up from 1947 to 1973. And people who don’t know about 1947 was the Roswell crash, and supposedly the government recovered saucers and ET bodies at that point. And the national cover-up, the US national cover-up of the ET presence began then. Also at the conference will be Steven Greer, who is the founder and director of the disclosure process. And Greer’s talked to Air Force pilots, army officers, Joint Chiefs of Staff, he’s addressed about the ET presence, he’s been on Larry King. Actually Steven Greer is a great communicator on the subject of ETs, ET presences. I don’t agree with everything he says, he says that a lot of the abductions are part of a military industrial complex program, but I personally think that the abductions are done by extraterrestrials for genetic information and they’re extracting the genes of humans from around the world to build a hybrid race that will have more human qualities. So I disagree with Steven Greer on a lot of what he says, but he also has a lot of good things to say about free energy, and he takes people out to certain locations where he actually makes contact with ships overhead. He just brought a friend of mine to Crestone, Colorado where they were able to see ships. Also at this conference will be Michael Salla, who was a pretty mainstream political analyst, he wrote The Hero’s Journey Towards a Second American Century, but recently has really devoted his energy to understanding exopolitics and embracing ETs, ET technologies, understanding and opening up to an extraterrestrial presence. His latest book is Exopolitics: Political Implications of an Extraterrestrial Presence. I think he’s a very important speaker. Also Daniel Sheehan, who was working with John Mack at Harvard, and John Mack was a Harvard psychiatrist who came forward and wrote a book on abductions, ET abductions. Harvard says you can’t say there have been ET abductions, that makes no sense at all, it ruins our reputation. They tried to get rid of him as a professor. Daniel Sheehan was one of the people who defended John Mack against Harvard, ensured his tenure, and was able to keep his job, and Harvard had to acknowledge that John Mack was privy and authorized and qualified to say what he said about human encounters with aliens. That’s the name of John Mack’s book, Abductions: Human Encounters with Aliens. Daniel Sheehan was very much a part of defending John Mack at Harvard, and he’ll be there in Washington, and he’s also a great guy and has a lot to say about the ET presence. Another person at the conference will be Alfred Webre, and you just heard Stephen Bassett talk a lot about Alfred’s ideas about exopolitics, government, and law in the universe. That’s a recent book that Alfred Webre wrote that has to do with how are we going to handle the whole ET planetary embrace, what position will governments take as they meet these extraterrestrial races. I mean, I think it’s a coming together of a planetary consciousness when we meet something greater than ourselves. So a little review of that book, Exopolitics: Government and Law in the Universe, is that this is Webre’s odyssey into the realm of life in the vast universe surrounding the planet. And a proposal of the coming up of a decade of contact because as we meet these extraterrestrial races, it will be a shock for most people, so it’ll be a slow integration period as we understand our role in a bigger cosmos. So I totally recommend people coming to this conference coming up. And again, if you want more information, go to paradigmresearchgroup.org, and then you can go /exo-conference2007. The conference will take place outside of Washington at the Gaithersburg Hilton. And September 14th to 16th. My name is Alan Steinfeld, and you’ve been listening to New Realities. And I broadcast every week, Tuesdays on bbsradio.com. You can also watch my television show at mnn.org every Monday night, 9:00 p.m. You can go to my website, newrealities.tv. I also welcome comments and emails at newrealities@earthlink.net. So newrealities@earthlink.net if you want to contact me, Alan Steinfeld, about any of the programs I’ve done in the past, and a lot of it has to do with different positions about ET presence, but I also have done shows about orphanages in Nepal and water rights around the world. So I try to include a whole scope of possibilities of how to build a new reality on the planet. So thank you for listening. I’m going to go out with a song about that actually an abductee wrote in the 1980s, Duke Williams and the Extremes, who I’ve interviewed on my television show, wrote this song called The Night Before the Future. And The Night Before the Future very much has to deal with what I think Stephen Bassett was saying about the extraterrestrial presence and coming forward and how disclosure of that information will give a whole birth to a new reality on planet Earth. Thank you for listening tonight and here is a night before the future. This is Alan Steinfeld.