Jim Sparks – The UFO Abductee that remembers it all

New Realities recorded on November 27, 2007

Summary

In this episode of New Realities, host Alan Steinfeld interviews Jim Sparks, author of ‘The Keepers‘ and founder of ‘Your Earth’. Sparks discusses his 20-year history of conscious extraterrestrial encounters, describing how his initial traumatic experiences evolved into a deeper understanding of alien agendas. He details his interactions with non-human intelligent beings, their telepathic communication, and their concern for Earth’s environment. Sparks outlines a plan proposed by these beings to save the planet by introducing free energy technologies through a gradual integration process that appeases corporate interests while ultimately benefiting humanity. The conversation also touches upon the potential for human evolution, the development of psychic abilities, and the necessity of global cooperation to achieve a sustainable future.

Transcript

Alan Steinfeld

Welcome to New Realities. My name is Alan Steinfeld, and each week I am investigating the cutting edge thought and how we are evolving as a planetary race. Tonight’s guest is someone who’s involved in just that evolution, and he is probably one of the most conscious people I know who have had experiences with ETs, extraterrestrials, people from other realities. My name is Alan Steinfeld, and this show is called New Realities, and I’ll be talking to Jim Sparks tonight. Jim, are you there?

Jim Sparks

Yes, I’m glad to be here too. Thanks.

Alan Steinfeld

Thanks. Okay, Jim has a book out called The Keepers, and his website is also jim-sparks.com. And I know you’re starting a foundation based on the messages and the information you’ve gotten from those experiences called Your Earth, which is a DVD. Tell us about Your Earth a little bit, Jim.

Jim Sparks

Well, yes. These experiences have been going on now, Alan, for almost 20 years. And the first six years of it were pretty much like what a lot of abductees claim to have experienced, traumatic, cruel, emotional experiments, semen extraction. A lot of cases, unfortunately with women, there was a hybrid scenario going on where they were part of that. Maybe they took the fetus after 90 days and I didn’t understand what was going on with any of it, and it wasn’t nice.

Alan Steinfeld

Well, yeah, no, I know. I mean, I understand. And you know, I think what’s great, I mean, yeah, I mean, there is a lot of documentation about it. And I know after that six years, something shifted from being traumatized to understanding another level of what was happening here.

Jim Sparks

Absolutely, absolutely.

Alan Steinfeld

Just describe that.

Jim Sparks

Well, it’s exactly what happened. And the difference between myself in that six, seven years was this person happened to maintain better than 95% conscious recall. And so I brought it back with me.

Alan Steinfeld

Let me just tell people, that is remarkable because most people just go unconscious when they encounter the unknown like this. That’s one question I did want to ask you. What do you think it is about you that stays conscious when everyone else just can’t take that shift in reality?

Jim Sparks

Well, I mean, I’ve seen it in action. Clearly, some of the experiences… Now, the experience has been very pleasant and evolved, so I don’t want to make this all sound scary. I’m just planning a foundation here. But to answer your question, I’ve seen a couple of different scenarios that point to that. One of which is… We’re talking about, for the most part, at least the ones that I’ve worked with or worked with me, by no choice of mine, are commonly referred to as Greys. They’re non-human intelligent beings. And when I… I want to emphasize non-human. So they don’t have the same social structure, they don’t have the same social skills. They’re telepathic, they think 10 to 100 times faster, and they don’t look like we do, and it’s kind of scary. Right. So a lot of people when they go through the abduction scenarios, there’s a lot of positive things that are ingrained in them for the human species to evolve during that process. But there are some ugly experiments and there’s ugly things that go on. So to answer your question…

Alan Steinfeld

Well, you know, I describe it as going to the dentist. It’s not a pleasant experience, but sometimes afterward you’re happy, you know, it’s sort of like that. If you didn’t tell someone they were going to the dentist and this guy sort of did all this stuff, then you would be traumatized. But that’s how I compare the experiences that I’ve had. Does that make sense?

Jim Sparks

That’s a good association. It’s a very good association. And then I’ve seen them take the physical memory away from people in some experiences just prior to them leaving or coming back. Another reason is they’ve chosen a few people, and I’m not trying to say I’m special, by all means, ’cause anybody can hear me.

Alan Steinfeld

Well, in a sense you are because you’re one of the few that has conscious memory. I mean, I know in my own experience, I’ve known something happened and I’ve had dreams or, let’s say, dream-type experiences, but I do not have a conscious recall for whatever emotional reason, I don’t. So anyway, it is unusual.

Jim Sparks

Yeah. I can tell you something more on a positive note when it comes to that. Let’s say that… Or we’ll take you for example, okay. You’re… Let’s say tomorrow you’re abducted. I still haven’t found the perfect word for it, detained, abducted, whatever. You’re pulled, okay. And let’s say it’s a two-hour experience that’s pleasant. Pleasant in every way, shape, and form. You learned a lot, you interacted, it was… You have a science mind, you have a curious personality, and the interaction went well. And they enhanced you with knowledge on how the human species can evolve, be it the environment or actually evolve to join the galactic neighborhood. It’s pleasant, it’s wonderful. A lot of times they’ll take it away. I surmise from what I’ve experienced is due to the fact that the experience itself will get in your life’s way. In other words, you’ll get the message, but the messengers and the interaction with the messengers would overwhelm more than what the message is. So you would be returned home and you would just be more overwhelmed by what took place in two hours for who knows how long that could reverberate down the road. A year, two years, three years, and kind of getting in the way of something that’s constructive. So that’s another reason.

Alan Steinfeld

But can they ever really take an experience away? I mean, it is somewhere buried in the person’s deep subconscious mind, the experience. It stays with you, right?

Jim Sparks

I think so to a certain degree. And one way I can relate it, let’s say you’re on board and you’re asked to walk from point A to point B. Let’s say you’re asked to go from one gurney to an experimental station where they want to do something, and it’s… They ask you to do this. And so you go walking across the room on board and you stub your toe. And it’s very painful, okay. And of course you go ouch, and then you go to wherever they asked you to. Now they take the physical memory away. What I’ve seen sometimes is that people will, it’s almost like a déjà vu, they’ll be walking around somewhere and they’ll stub their toe, and that pain will bring back 5, 10 or 15 seconds of that experience. So if it’s associated with whatever it was you were doing. So to answer your question, I think it’s still in your mind, yeah.

Alan Steinfeld

Well, Jim, let me tell you an experience I did have aboard a ship, and to me it was sort of in a dream, but I was walking from one point to another, and I kept touching my third eye, and at that point I felt like they said, or whatever, who they were, they said we couldn’t work with me anymore because I was too in control of my own self. So that was sort of the last experience I felt like I had in 1988, was this place of touching my third eye. For whatever reason, they just said they couldn’t work with me anymore. Does that make sense?

Jim Sparks

Well, I guess it does and it doesn’t. I mean, it makes sense to the extent that perhaps working with you in a conscious level where you would maintain the memory of the experience would not be a good thing. Well, it really is true, because if you’re so focused on your agenda and what you think it means and the experience relative to what they think you should have, then you might hear a statement like that. But I got to tell you something about people, and it’s an experiment that I’ve been doing. We may get a little somebody’s trying to get into the phone, but it’ll go away. It’s an experiment that I’ve been doing. I’ve noticed people who have sightings, people who have more of a… Then just a passing interest in the phenomena. And people who, of course, are abductees like yourself, there’s a common thread that I’m seeing. And it’s the fact that they are… They seem to be extremely sensitive about the Earth’s environment. So I’m going to presume you are.

Alan Steinfeld

Well, of course. I mean, how could you not be? I mean, I… It hurt me to see garbage when I was in Hawaii. I felt compelled to pick up, you know, whatever I saw. But yeah, of course. I mean, any conscious person living on the planet today has to be aware that you can’t keep throwing garbage in your backyard.

Jim Sparks

Yeah, you can’t keep trashing it. Right, so their take on it is clean up your own backyard before you can join the galactic neighborhood. And they seem to be also more in tune with the betterment of the human species, the betterment of mankind, the human species finally evolving to the point of not dying out, evolving to the point of joining the galactic neighborhood. You know, they’re claiming that we have the resources, they’re claiming we have the minds, they’re claiming that we have the money. And if we could put it all, the resources necessary, more than necessary are here in order for us to do such. And so I’m seeing, and you know, and of course 20 years ago I would ask these questions, or 15 years ago I would ask these questions, and I’m happy to see that there’s, you know, a raised consciousness globally regarding the environment. It’s not enough yet, but it’s something.

Alan Steinfeld

Well, everyone, I was just talking to a guy in a pizza shop behind the, he says, oh yeah, global warming. I mean, everyone is, it’s on the consciousness of the people out there on the street, like it wasn’t 10 or 15 years ago. Now, there is a critical awareness about the environment. Sure. But let me just get back to another point that you said people wouldn’t remember their experiences ’cause it might change something in their life that would get in the way of who they are in the everyday world. But that didn’t happen with you. Why not?

Jim Sparks

Well, for one reason I know for this particular individual, meaning myself of course, that they are, this group of Greys are adamant about following particular family lines genetically for thousands and thousands and thousands of years. Now that was shown. So I happened to fall in some genetic family line that, for whatever reason, dictated, well this guy is going to have full conscious recall. I don’t like to, I don’t self-proclaim to be the ambassador for ETs. I don’t claim to embrace alien culture. I have a healthy suspicion of their motives. But I’m seeing that it’s definitely positive as the years have gone by. But it’s like there’s people there that can say, hey, look, I watched all this stuff going on, and I see what they’re doing with people, and I’m pretty sure I think I know why they’re taking the memory away, and I think they’ve allowed me to keep the memory so I can talk to you and talk to your, the people that are in your listening audience now.

Alan Steinfeld

Well, we’re going to get to that. I have one more question that I have to ask along those lines, because it’s the whole reason I do a show called New Realities. And it’s about when you meet beings like this, or you’re pulled out of your everyday reality and plopped down into another, totally different world. There’s something about perception and the conscious mind that can’t maintain its sense of itself, and I think that’s where people go unconscious. And something doesn’t, that doesn’t happen to you for some reason, but for most people, you can see that it’s a shock and a trauma. Post-traumatic stress syndromes do occur because the reality has shifted so drastically. You know, for most… Absolutely. And so… And so there’s something about that that I’m trying to understand for myself, and for, you know, that is my investigation into reality. How were you so able to adapt to this totally strange… I mean, you know, you’re pulled out of your bed, you see these weird-looking creatures, you know it’s not a dream, you’re in a different environment, and how did you maintain your awareness?

Jim Sparks

Well, I mean, just the contrast in what they are and what we are are extreme. And the first six, seven years, as I mentioned early in the show… Did I interrupt you? Were you going to say something?

Alan Steinfeld

No, no, no. That’s it. You did say that. But go ahead, do that, because the first six, seven years you were traumatized.

Jim Sparks

Yeah. But here’s why, okay. For starters, they can think 10 to 100 times faster. That in itself is extremely intimidating. Before you can even reason a question in your mind, they’re already responding to something that you’re just starting to think of. They’re 100% telepathic. All their technology is thought-activated. They have the ability to travel dimensions. It’s science. These beings can go from point A to point B anywhere in the cosmos with little to no time passing. They can be in one dimension and have their working essence in one dimension, which they would be invisible to us, and then work in this dimension.

Alan Steinfeld

Explain, just explain what you mean by dimensions. What is… Does that mean a different matter frequency? What do dimensions mean to you?

Jim Sparks

Matter frequency would be… I try to take things as scientifically as possible, Alan, but I’m not claiming to be a scientist, ’cause I’m not.

Alan Steinfeld

Because a lot of people throw around the word dimension, and as far as I know, all I see is what’s in front of me, but that’s probably… I mean, of course there’s radio waves and all that, so explain what you mean by dimensions.

Jim Sparks

Yeah. I can describe that, okay. It’s occupying the same space at the same time. And I don’t want to say, because it’s going to sound like a cliche, but there’s, for lack of a better explanation, it’s like you just said, a vibration. But however, to give you exact examples, they can be… Now this is… Again, this is science. This means you can be, if you had the technology, okay, so I’m referring to the “they” because they have this. They can… For example, let’s say they just wanted to be in a room observing people, but they did not want to be seen. Two percent or 3% of their essence would be in that room, and they would be transparent. You wouldn’t see them, but they would be occupying the same space at the same time. At 98% or 97% or 98% in complete solidity. Now, be it a different vibration, be it whatever they do to manipulate matter, but I do know this, they create a field. And this field renders these marvelous abilities. And it’s a field that’s created through technology. It’s a distortion. I’ve seen it power up. It almost looks like a fog in the air at first, and then it kind of dissipates, and then there’s this invisibility factor. Now let’s say they just wanted to observe you. You’re not going to see them. Okay, now let’s say they need to move matter around in this dimension, in this environment.

Alan Steinfeld

Like go through walls and bring people out of their buildings?

Jim Sparks

Absolutely, yeah. And it’s happened to me, and maybe you have memories of that happening to you.

Alan Steinfeld

I think it has happened to me, yes.

Jim Sparks

And it’s, you know, it can be very scary, but then when you realize it’s science and it’s not going to kill you, you start to observe more instead of being in fear.

Alan Steinfeld

But let me ask you one more question around. So okay, so they can move matter, they can play with our physical world and move through it. Now, now what I’ve always realized or thought, when you move in a different dimension, you actually, your thought processes are shifted. Do you know what I mean? As in a different frequency of being, you’re actually not the same person you were in this reality. Have you noticed that?

Jim Sparks

Well, in a sense, in a different way. Meaning if I think we’re on the same page when I say this, okay. I know that they also use dimensions to travel. And I think the travel aspect of it is for shorter distances. Meaning, to go interplanetary. To go from one state to the next hypothetically, if you wanted to, they use travel dimensions to do it. Okay, here’s what I have seen over the years. That when you’re exposed to this technology for a lengthy period of time, meaning if the abduction scenario is a couple of hours, and if you’re exposed to it in a very frequently, like let’s say you get pulled two or three times a week for a month, not so much that you’re different when you’re there, it’s more like you’re different when you come back home. There’s a residual effect, and then this residual effect is not pleasant, but over time I’ve gotten used to it and it doesn’t scare me at all. It’s interesting if anything.

Alan Steinfeld

I got to block it out. What is the residual? What is that?

Jim Sparks

You can see… You can see in ghost-like form shades of these other dimensions once you’re back home. You can actually see these places that you were in, and it’s almost like a flashback or something. You can be walking somewhere and you see shadows of these other places. It’s like this vibration, however they change the frequency of your physical matter. However they change physical matter, when they create this field, that vibration is, it’s like a tuning fork, even though it’s winding down, it’s… You’re still in tune with those other dimensions, so you can literally see things in these other dimensions. And as the days go by, it kind of wears off and then it’s gone. But if you’re abducted constantly and it’s several things. You’re… A, they’re radiating energy that’s unworldly that does different things to your mind. And being in these other dimensions through the technology, that residual effect can last a pretty long time.

Alan Steinfeld

And so do you have that with you all the time now, that ability to see the kind of shadowy forms?

Jim Sparks

Well, I’m kind of close to the vest with this ’cause it look, it’s… Our business already sounds cuckoo, okay, to the mainstream world, okay.

Alan Steinfeld

Well, they’re not listening to our conversation. Really. Because this audience is for the educated.

Jim Sparks

Well, that’s cool. But when I say close to the vest too, I mean that I do my best to sort something out and make it as factual to myself as I can, and then I go public. But I’m not holding anything back. What I have noticed is that you can exercise… There’s, it’s a personal thing that I do. I used to, but I’ve kind of backed off of it. That I did notice that there are, there are muscles in the mind, so to speak, that lie atrophied like any other muscle. If it’s atrophied and we don’t use it, we’re not going to be able to get anything out of it. I have noticed that because it happened so frequently for me, I mean it’s been hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of these abductions in 20 years.

Alan Steinfeld

Are they still going on?

Jim Sparks

It’s evolved. Sometimes…

Alan Steinfeld

Okay, we’ll get to that. Finish the muscles in the mind ’cause that’s fascinating too.

Jim Sparks

They’re… They’re… When they speak with you telepathically, you’re using parts of your brain ’cause you’re responding back to them in a kind that you don’t normally use. And these atrophied muscles start to, they become exercised or they’re in exercise while you’re there. When you get back home, they’re still active, so to speak, and again they start to wind down. What I’ve learned through the years is it’s a focus or a way of thinking with the telepathic thoughts, and in essence you become, and I never like to claim this, but you become a little more psychic. You, there’s a communication so forth with these evolved non-human beings even though you’re not being pulled. It’s mild and it flashes in and it flashes out. You have more of a sense of what might be going on on the other side of the globe, you got more of a feel for what’s going on with the Earth’s environment.

Alan Steinfeld

And for someone you’re connecting with, you could… ‘Cause I have a sense of being psychic because of these… I not read people’s thoughts, but I get…

Jim Sparks

I can pick up psychic stuff, I mean just from whatever. But I think it has to do with my experiences, so I do know what to say.

Alan Steinfeld

Well I think it does. I think it does. And I think what you’re saying is if you’ve been abducted, then I know that you’re more in tune that way as a person. It just goes hand in hand. So if you know you’ve had experiences, you can count on it. But now I’ll tell you something that’s evolved with that. It’s a challenge, ’cause we’re so used to verbal communication. We have two cells to our personalities. Now, I’m not pretending to be Dr. Freud here, but I’m just going to be very basic. There’s the outside Alan and there’s the outside Jim that are communicating right now. When we meet people, they’re seeing the surface of what we want them to know. What’s really inside us, they have no clue, unless the interaction becomes intimate and it becomes a trusted friend or a significant other, then you start letting them in about what you may have done as a child or the things you feel guilty about or the things that you would like to repair.

Alan Steinfeld

Just the things you feel, just your deeper feelings is what you’re saying.

Jim Sparks

Absolutely. Now, when you communicate with these guys, or when they communicate with you, and this has evolved, man, it is like, at first the most horrible feeling in the world because they do not see that outside you that we put up as a wall. They have no concept of it. They only have a concept of exactly what’s inside you. And it pierces right through that, and it’s like you’re opened up on a table as if you were an earthworm in your biology class, and they took the pins and they were doing a dissection to show you what the inside of a worm looks like. It would be… I don’t mean to be gross, but you know what I’m saying.

Alan Steinfeld

No, no, I understand. But isn’t that inside you, us, isn’t that more of a spiritual quality? And would so then are you saying that they tap into the spiritual, I would say, soul essence of the person?

Jim Sparks

Well, I would say, let’s bring it a little more to the surface. Let’s say that you… I’m going to just give a silly example. Let’s say that one day you were walking down the street and you were a teenager and you found a wallet, and you didn’t do the right thing, even though you’re a good person. You didn’t do the right thing. You picked the wallet up, you took the money out of the wallet, and then you threw the wallet in the mailbox. You took the money, okay. Right. And something you felt horrible about all your life, right? Right. It’s something you don’t tell your friends. It’s something you don’t tell people close to you. It was a life’s lesson. You were young, you’re embarrassed by that you would do such a thing. Right. Now, here they are communicating with you, and what do you think they see?

Alan Steinfeld

They see that stuff.

Jim Sparks

Yeah, and you just name it all.

Alan Steinfeld

But that’s a sort of, I would say, a spiritual quality. I call it that. I mean, it’s psychological, it’s guilt, but it has resonance on a soul level. That’s… I mean, so I’m saying, is that…

Jim Sparks

It has positive effects. Yes, it does. Now here’s where it becomes positive. At first to me, it was scary and negative because I don’t want people to know or anybody to know some of the things I’ve kept to myself, you know? And then there’s things you keep to yourself that you don’t brag on, that are very positive about you. And but it works both ways. So you feel very raw, but at the same time, what I’ve learned is evolved species is that if they can see the things in me, and I guess you can call that spiritual in a sense, then I can see the things in them at the same time too, so it works both ways.

Alan Steinfeld

So tell us, what did you see in them that they don’t want to share on the surface?

Jim Sparks

Big picture. The big picture for me, what I see with them, and it’s close to me, is it’s going to sound political, it’s going to sound philosophical, and not so much emotional, but it works. What I have learned about the evolved species on a galactic basis, the galactic neighborhood, the ones that are in the know and traveling interdimensionally, moving about the cosmos, there’s a reason, this plays into our foundation so. And we’re out of that picture, so to speak. Is the fact that the reason they’re not warring and the reason there isn’t all this violence like there is with us unfortunately, is the fact that you always know what your, I don’t want to say enemy, but for lack of a better word, what your enemy is thinking. There’s no surprise attacks. There’s a consciousness that’s, even though there are different agendas, there are different species, there are different races within those species, just like there are human races, and they’re going about their business. And some of these agendas may be in direct conflict with others, even though they’re evolved, there’s not going to be this warring fact because of the fact that this telepathy enables all concerned to know what the other person is thinking. And so you could never be taken by surprise. So it’s kind of a neat way to keep the universe at bay, so to speak.

Alan Steinfeld

Well, the amazing thing about us as a species is that we have that capacity as well.

Jim Sparks

Yes, we do.

Alan Steinfeld

And so I think developing that would be the most important thing if we are going to become a galactic civilization. Wouldn’t you say?

Jim Sparks

Well, I have to agree with you. Because the, I said the first seven, six, seven years were traumatic, the years 7 through 13 were eye-opening because I began to see and participate in massive abductions where literally they would, we’re taking picking up millions and millions of people all over the globe, and giving them an environmental lesson, so to speak. And I don’t think it’s a coincidence a lot of this environmental sensitivity that I see in people today is by mere coincidence, but I think a lot of it has to do with that campaign. But even more exciting is the fact that in the last six, seven years, like year 13 to almost 20 now… Through 19, so I’m working on 20. They have it’s flowered to an actual plan to where for the first time in our history, the human species can actually evolve, and there literally is a plan.

Alan Steinfeld

Like, well, if we follow it. No, I follow that, but then what about this whole hybridization program that’s been going on I guess since the 60s, 70s, 80s, how does that fit in with us evolving?

Jim Sparks

Insurance plan.

Alan Steinfeld

What do you mean?

Jim Sparks

Insurance. Insurance.

Alan Steinfeld

To making that…

Jim Sparks

Go ahead. That’s what you got, or is that what you… You’re just guessing?

Jim Sparks

That’s what I asked, and that’s what I sensed, and that’s what came back. And I don’t, just because one says something to me doesn’t mean I believe it.

Alan Steinfeld

Well, go through that, go through this understanding the human race evolving and the hybrids being just an insurance.

Jim Sparks

Well, yeah. I mean, it’s not negative. Okay, for starters, they’ve created beings, and I hate to sound gross and I hate to sound scary, but I’ve seen them. I’ve seen them. They’ve made they’re closer to human beings. They’re smaller than we are. They’re frailer than we are. They’re extremely much more environmentally sensitive than we are. They do not need to derive from the planet as much for energy as we do. And they’re… they…They tend to be a bit less emotional, and they tend to be highly much more intelligent. Now, what are these beings, from all these years? In the event that we do not evolve, in the event that unfortunately, if we self-destruct, then these things can inhabit… I say things. I guess I should call them people. I used to call them people, yeah.

Alan Steinfeld

They have souls, don’t they? I mean, they’re not just robots. They are…

Jim Sparks

No, they’re people. They’re people. Their chins are a little pointy, their mouths are thinner, they are telepathic, they do have hair on their head, but it’s thinner. Their eyes are bigger than normal. And they’re not ugly. They’re relatively attractive, but they’re different. But they tend to be less emotional, like they are, and they tend to be much more intelligent. So, in the event that we fail, which I hope we don’t, then they’re sent to repopulate the planet, so to speak.

Alan Steinfeld

But let’s say we don’t fail, what happens to all these beings?

Jim Sparks

Oh God, the cosmos is so big. It’s so big. So many different agendas, so many other worlds. It’s just…

Alan Steinfeld

So they have a plan B or a plan A to go to another planet and populate that?

Jim Sparks

They have ways of taking care of them, absolutely. I didn’t see anything there that showed me that these people were under any duress or stress or concern about anything where their future may be. I saw complete contentment.

Alan Steinfeld

Because my understanding about the Grays was that they were taking our genetics because they had reached the end of their race, they couldn’t reproduce. They needed to breed back into some human qualities into them in order to keep evolving. It was for them as well that the hybridization was happening.

Jim Sparks

Well, I’ve seen something along those lines that might lead one to believe it’s that way, and there could be agendas that are. I’ve seen another agenda where they are taking some of the qualities that we have as human beings and breeding it into them, so to speak. However, they do it scientifically. I saw one campaign with these robotic beings, but anyway, don’t let me get into that, it removes from this. But nonetheless, where there’s some emotional qualities, some paternal qualities, some maternal qualities that we have as humans, particularly how we interact. I think that they’re, from what I’ve seen, they’re breeding some of that into themselves to make themselves a better rounded or even more superior being, coupled with the high intelligence, a sense of emotion, a sense of feeling, and a sense of social interaction, which is something that these guys do not have.

Alan Steinfeld

Right, this is sort of what I get from, the John Mack approach and the Budd Hopkins, they lean in that direction. That’s been the big influence on me and that understanding from those guys. So you’re not totally in agreement with that.

Jim Sparks

I’m not in disagreement. Here’s how it’s the best way for me to answer it, and I say it like this a lot. Let’s say alien agendas were 360 degrees, each degree housed several agendas. And I’m privy to two or three degrees of that 360, and the focus of attention for this particular human has been within the scope of those two to three degrees and the agendas within, which are outside of that campaign. Now, I can’t say that I don’t come across things in the last 20 years that are not relevant to what they’re doing with this person that I spot and see and glance at, and I can only stab in the dark. So no, I’m not disagreeing with Hopkins. I’m not disagreeing with God bless the former Professor Mack. But it has not been part of the agenda that they’ve had Jim Sparks in.

Alan Steinfeld

Okay, so let me just say then that what you’re saying essentially is that their agendas are very complex and there’s a lot more going on than perhaps our limited human perspective could comprehend at this point. They’re only showing perhaps each person a small degree of the total picture of what’s really going on here.

Jim Sparks

That’s a good way to put it, Alan. And there’s another thing that’s going on, is that according to them, okay, according to them, that the human, the human race has reached this point in its, in its history several times and self-destructed. Now I’m not trying to sound negative because there’s a positive note I’ll get to here in a minute, meaning that we populated the planet billions before. We’ve had the technology that we have now. We’ve even had the resources that we have today, and in minds and geniuses that are on this planet. And unfortunately, we’ve self-destructed. A handful of us have survived for various reasons just to start the whole thing over several hundred thousand years later or maybe even longer in some cases. So when we get to this point, it seems like what I’m getting from these guys is that there’s a, there’s a… now there’s another shot.

Alan Steinfeld

And we’re at that point again, you feel? Or that’s what they say, that we’re kind of at that tipping point where we have a choice of either going with…

Jim Sparks

Yes, absolutely. We’re right there at the point where we can either evolve or go the other way. And so the campaign, the interest, why there’s even more interest right now than there has been throughout our history in the last 10, 20, 30, 40,000 years, Homo sapiens sapiens or maybe even longer is the fact we’re at that point again. And will we evolve is the question. And some steps have been outlined as to how we can do that.

Alan Steinfeld

And how can we do that?

Jim Sparks

I couldn’t tie the two things together for many years until finally some answers started coming. One major campaign is to clean up our own backyard first, meaning environmentally speaking. An assignment that they had for me, if I chose to accept it, was to take on the rainforest. And then a ma-

Alan Steinfeld

Wait, they consciously said sort of, Jim, your job is to help save the rainforest?

Jim Sparks

Absolutely, help save the rainforest.

Alan Steinfeld

Okay.

Jim Sparks

See, I watched them pick up people in mass abductions who are generally sometimes somewhat sensitive to environmental issues, and I’ve watched them enhance them with knowledge on how to solve these problems. Again, take the physical memory away, put you back home, and when the timing’s right, when it reaches critical mass, it’s like you’ll know what to do. You’re not brainwashed. You’ll have the option, you can choose to do it, but at least you will have clarity on gee what you can do. That’s why we’re forming Your Earth. What Your Earth intends to do is have more resources than you could possibly ever need, more money than you need, more of the best minds that this world has to offer, and for the first time, a global hands-on project to do something with the environment, starting with the rainforest first. Okay.

Alan Steinfeld

And the rainforest because they’re the lungs of our planet. Is that what it translates?

Jim Sparks

Absolutely. And but there’s something neat here which I couldn’t tie in before that’s has come into the picture. They also emphasized this thing with amnesty. Not so much full-blown forced disclosure, so to speak, but amnesty meaning that to create a legal avenue for these individuals who are in black ops, sanctioned and non-sanctioned agencies, of course, in total secret, who have developed with ETs, because in some cases higher black ops levels work in total harmony with extraterrestrials without the government not even having a clue. 99.9… 0.9% of our government at face value doesn’t know what’s going on with those. They’re separated from that.

Alan Steinfeld

Yeah, some people say all the technology we have is reverse engineered through the ET ships that we found and working with these ETs.

Jim Sparks

At level two, I break it down in three simple levels. The government at face value, that’s the government we deal with every day. And that’s why it’s a beautiful cover-up, because you can beat them until they’re blue in the face, until you’re blue in the face, and they’re going to say, I don’t know, okay? You’re going to have the second level that retrieves crashed discs that back-engineer and who have developed some pretty phenomenal technologies, and I think a lot of the sightings that we see now are probably part, at least in part, that, okay? Then you got this other level, and this is the level that the amnesty I think is really for. It’s the first level of government, the second level that I just described, have no clue what this third level really possesses. They possess the ability to go from point A to point B in the cosmos. They possess the ability to clean the ocean, to rejuvenate the rainforest, the technology to rejuvenate the air. They have the technologies that are, they’ve gotten from ETs and they’ve worked in conjunction with. And that’s the level where I’m seeing, through my abduction experiences, a growing majority that would like to bring this stuff forward. But they’re scared.

Alan Steinfeld

So what are they waiting for?

Jim Sparks

They’re scared. Now, here’s the scary part. How could they be scared if they have all that power and knowledge? It doesn’t make sense.

Jim Sparks

I’ll tell ya, I mean, I’ll tell ya the best that I’ve surmised, and if you put yourself in their shoes, you might see it this way. Okay. These people aren’t all bad. A lot of most of ’em are good, okay? But they are committed individuals who’ve sworn to secrecy, who have sworn to protect, particularly in our country, the National Security of the United States. And their whole life is never to come forward with these things for several reasons. But here’s what they’ve had to do in the last 40 to 60 years. When people get close to the truth. They’re first discredited. If that doesn’t work, they’re maimed or they become sick. If that doesn’t work…

Alan Steinfeld

You mean they actively go out and do something harmful to these people?

Jim Sparks

Yes, or they die. They’re killed. Okay, they’re killed. Now, that’s outside the law. That is creating harm to law-abiding citizens who have come close, they’ve broken the law. That’s murder in a sense, okay? It is. There’s no other way to look at it. You come forward with this stuff is coming forward saying, I may be responsible for 3 or 400 deaths globally and most of them here in my own country. What will you do to me? Now knowing that what we’ve done to bring this stuff out. So the amnesty bill so to speak, I’m calling it a bill, but I see what you mean. Is an avenue for them to come forward voluntarily, not for spiritual reasons but for practical reasons, they can’t be prosecuted, they can’t be accused.

Alan Steinfeld

And the other part of the amnesty is if our government has been knowledge of the millions of people that were being abducted, they would be held accountable.

Jim Sparks

Exactly. You got it on the head.

Alan Steinfeld

I get it, I get it.

Jim Sparks

Now, you wanna know why you’re so smart? You’re smart because ET, okay, and again ET, non-human intelligent beings. Yeah. Have said exactly what you just said. So they’re saying, do this. Now I’m thinking, well god guys, how do you tie in amnesty with the rainforest and getting the truth out so the species can evolve? Well, here’s how they see it. Step one, go to the rank. We gotta have a total global hands-on project. We gotta get the world into this. And I think we’re almost ripe for it. That’s what Your Earth is about. If you go on, I don’t want to sound like a commercial, but if you go on my website, it’s Jim-Sparks.com or Jim hyphen Sparks.com, whatever you’re more comfortable with. We put together a package for your listeners, which is a DVD and it’s my book, The Keepers, and in combination, we discounted it pretty good and I put a letter in there about how you may want to be involved in Your Earth after you read the material if it so moves you. But the point is, here’s the outline of the plan. Rainforests and Amnesty, how does it tie in? First thing they claim to do, suggest we do, is literally buy out all that property. Buy as much rainforest, Amazonian land, equatorial land, buy it all.

Alan Steinfeld

You mean the people with money in the US, you’re saying should buy that range?

Jim Sparks

All of us, all of us. Let me give you a small example. I believe it was Ecuador, the newly elected president of Ecuador, for example, publicly said that he’s got a million hectares of sensitive rainforest land in his country that oil was discovered. It’s got $30 billion approximately in oil assets if they develop that property to derive the oil. He said that if the global community is willing to purchase it, then he would, they would own it and he would not go ahead and go in there and get the oil. $30 billion if you just take America and you divide out that between the population of our planet and you throw in a few companies and corporations, it’d run us about $5 or $8 a person. If you were to involve government behind it, it might only involve pennies per person. if the global community looked at these areas as sensitive to the security of life itself and wanted to protect it that way. So the first step is to buy it. If they offer 30 billion, they suggest buy it for 40, or 35, or 45, so there can never ever be a claim that we swindled it out from some up-and-coming developing country. You want to give them more than they ever expected.

Alan Steinfeld

So what if… what about some place like the UN declaring this a planetary sanctuary or something along those lines?

Jim Sparks

Sure, sure, see what Your Earth is going to do is pull in the best minds that this globe has to offer, to think tank the best way to handle this global problem. Look what you just came up with, and just you and I talking, imagine the geniuses that are out there. If they had something that they can pour themselves into and believe in, okay. And for the sake of time, I’ll jump to step two. Okay. Step two is, once these properties are owned, is to house these properties with the Indians who are indigenous to that geographical area. Put the Indians that are indigenous to it to be stewards of the property. That’s the second part. The third part, and here’s where it really involves the global community, and I’ll get to the amnesty thing where this comes in. The third step is to take those millions of people who are thrashing and burning, and taken and eating away the rainforest for inadequate housing, lack of knowledge of crop rotation, so they just keep going and going and going, almost like a virus or a bacteria, right? And take those people for their… for their labors in restoring the rainforest, the same ones who have been thrashing it, get a plot of land outside the rainforest with adequate housing, proper farmland, taught how to rotate crops and so forth. This is where the global world comes in, contributing to this. So now their labors are used to rejuvenate the rainforests versus what they have been doing. And in turn for their labors, they get something for it. Now we own it, now we’ve got the Indians who are indigenous to it, who are the stewards of it, and now we have the people who are starving to death, the poor, the peasants, of the world who’ve been thrashing and burning, they’ve got a decent place to live with food, and in return their labors, for their labors in restoring, they get this, and of course the world is contributing funds to their well-being because it is a concern to all of us. Now…

Alan Steinfeld

Wait, is this a plan you got from the ETs or something you’ve fabricated due to your experiences?

Jim Sparks

Not from Jim Sparks.

Alan Steinfeld

Okay, okay, okay.

Jim Sparks

This is due to the experiences. Okay, and the simplest things these guys used to tell me over the years, I would just like, ’cause I was mean, you know me personally a little bit, you know I was mean to these guys ’cause I thought they were mean to me and anything they told me I’d say was bunk and I’d yell at ’em and… but over the years I start thinking about the things they’ve suggested and I said, man these things just make too much sense. I gotta tell people. Okay, now here’s where amnesty comes in. This one I think you’ll really love. Okay. Okay, now you’ve got the world for the first time in its history with a hands-on global project with these steps that are outlined. You’ve got an amnesty bill in place. Now these black op people can come forward with technologies as such. Because now the world’s in one frame of mind. They know they’re not going to get hurt, they know they’re not going to get killed, they’re not going to be ex… executed, they’re not going to be charged, they’re not going to be held accountable as you said. Number two is that, let’s say that there’s a million hectares of rainforest land that was injured and with current technology it would take 50 years or 75 years to restore. These guys, these black op guys, come forward with amnesty. They have technologies that can do that job in six months.

Alan Steinfeld

So that’s the reason they’re not coming forward with their technology because it implies… it implicates them in a worldwide crime in a sense.

Jim Sparks

Beautiful way to put it.

Alan Steinfeld

And at the same token, now if you got the… if the world is motivated for the first time, look, you’ll never get everybody in on the same picture, you know that, but if you get the majority of the globe, any normal person would wanna do something about this. And any way a normal person can contribute to the restoration of our…

Jim Sparks

environment, to make this end. And for the, here’s where we can evolve according to them, because once these technologies come out to restore the rainforest, they’ve got the same technologies that’ll take the pollutants and poisons out of all the world’s seas and oceans, fast. Their technologies act-

Alan Steinfeld

And ETs won’t, and ETs will not do it for us, we have to definitely come together as a unit, as a singularity in order to do this.

Jim Sparks

That’s the picture.

Alan Steinfeld

Uh-huh.

Jim Sparks

And now we can evolve because then we can start conquering things. Now they’ll start getting their hands in on what we are. Because now we’re doing something for ourselves and we’re doing it in a global way. And man, you couldn’t have hit it any better on the head when you said that, because of the fact, you know, when you fly by this line, if you’re a highly intelligent being and you hover over this planet in your spacecraft with a half a dozen of your comrades and you look down on it, you’re looking at a hornets nest. When you think about it. Even if you look at, if you look at all the separate positions that individuals take, all six billion of us, you know, there’s a lot of us that have all these things in mind that we, we’re talking about, but the bulk of us don’t even, we’re not there. Governments are constantly changing, power is always shifting, so you’re looking at a hornet’s nest.

Alan Steinfeld

Well, let me just say one thing as you’re talking now, I’m hearing this high-pitched sound that I used to hear when I was a child coming through one ear. It just was there for a second and I think that was somehow connected to those experiences I had. So as you were saying that, I started to hear that high pitch.

Jim Sparks

That stuff happens to me too. And I think to some degree there’s a… there’s an association with sort of a… well, I do know that in symbolic form, they can show you a symbol, or there’s a symbolic form of transmitting data and vast amounts of it in a short period of time. And I think some of those waves, those frequencies, that because I hear that too, it shifts in my ears from time to time… is literally… Look, I’m not claiming this is what this is, I’m saying I know for myself.

Alan Steinfeld

No, I’m just curious what you make of it. Yeah.

Jim Sparks

Yeah. One side will be doing it sometimes, or both sides will be doing it at the same time, and then it’ll shift over to just one side, and clearly there’s a shift. And you notice it, and I think it’s a… I think it’s a positive thing. It’s you’re getting data. You’re not consciously aware of it, but it’ll unwind itself like a slow tape over time. So I think it’s a communication thing.

Alan Steinfeld

So getting back to the environmental thing, then most… I mean, most people perhaps aren’t ready to hear the ET angle, but they can get behind the environment, and start to… and they are. People are aware that there’s a global warming, whatever that means, and… you know, something’s going on. Maybe it’s global cooling. Who knows what’s going on. But people are much more aware of the environment, and I think there are people with a lot of money. I mean, I know Sting puts on a rainforest concert every two years and gives a lot of money to preserve the rainforest. I mean, there’s people with money who would come forward with this.

Jim Sparks

Absolutely. Absolutely. And I’ve had people offer. Influential people. And influential groups. And here’s what I’m telling them. That’s why I say if you go on that website at jim-sparks.com, the Your Earth nonprofit foundation is intended to be global. Its intent is to have… See, we need a center. That’s the bottom line here. is the way they’re seeing it is we need one center. I’m tremendously deep and humble myself in praise to these people like these rockers and these influential people, famous people with money who are contributing the way they’re doing. And it’s 100% in the right direction. This is not contrary to that, but their claim is to have one center, one nucleus. So it’s, there’s nothing complicated about it, everything is dumped into that center.

Alan Steinfeld

This is what the ETs are saying. We need one center to maintain it.

Jim Sparks

Yes. Okay. Okay, go ahead. That way we’re all of like mind, with the resources, and, and we can pull in not only what do we pull in the moneys, they’re saying have more than what you need. Make this thing… And I’m calling it Your Earth, and it’s Your Earth came to us 10 years ago through this abduction stuff, but nonetheless it’s called Your Earth, and it’s to have more resources than it could possibly ever need to accomplish all of this. It has to bring in more money, but one of the best parts, they advised, is it brings in all the minds of the world, the geniuses, the people who are the movers, the shakers, the ones that can think out a plan. Inevitably it’ll pull in government. Because the global, the globe has to see this planet as anything environmentally sensitive would be considered a direct threat if anybody chooses to harm it to the whole globe. Right. So that involves military in a positive way, in a sense, to protect it. It involves government, and then it’s grassroots, which involves the citizens of the world. Once you have that together, now these technologies will come out that these black op people have. Now the beauty part of it is, Alan, is the fact that some of the other periods of times when when when when we could have evolved and we self-destructed, ET primarily had the technology. But since we’re kind of lucky, even though these black operations have been doing this under our noses and over our heads in secrecy, they’ve developed technologies but they’re in human hands. We’re not pleading to, or pleading to ET to release this stuff to us. People have this stuff.

Alan Steinfeld

And so once these people realize that some of this stuff can come out, and it’s a little bit complicated because a lot of it is tied in with national security and defense and things of that nature… Well, really we don’t really have to defend ourselves against anybody except maybe our own governments at this point. So… I hear ya, man. I hear ya. But… So you’re saying going back to that one center. So you want like an office building in Manhattan? Or what do you say a center? What are you looking for?

Jim Sparks

Well, here’s the beauty with how I’m seeing Your Earth through suggestions on their part, is that where should Your Earth be located is will be determined on the principals involved. The members of the board… Because what we’re doing is let’s try to remember something. We’re re- where we failed throughout human history is that we’ve had many good leaders throughout our history, and I’m talking tens of thousands of years who’ve directed people in different ways, but pretty much the results end up being the same. We still war, we still die. What we need is to have these great individuals right down to the common person like me, house the minds to structure where should we locate Your Earth. Now I’m in Nevada, obviously I’m forming it here as a non-profit in Nevada at this moment. Because I’m not gonna go anywhere else but where I live. But by the same token, once Your Earth starts pulling in the resources, which people wanna do, we’ve got people that are standing ready and it’s, it’s building. Pour in the resources of monies, pull in the resources of the greatest minds that this planet has in this day and time, they get together. Now you have one mongolious resource of unlimited funds and unlimited thinking.

Alan Steinfeld

Isn’t Bill Clinton doing, I mean maybe he’s not conscious of the ETs, but his Global Initiative seemed to deal with some of this, I don’t really know what goes on there, but I know he meets once a year…

Jim Sparks

Sure, sure. So is-

Alan Steinfeld

And talks about the global situation.

Jim Sparks

Go ahead, I’m sorry.

Alan Steinfeld

So, can we get him involved?

Jim Sparks

I think so, I think, and I’m very, here’s where I’m really fussy, and maybe that’s why, you know, I got the job, so to speak, to at least kick the thing off, and of course I wanna be involved as, for the rest of my life. But I’m extremely fussy about making sure that this center, the foundation of this center has no flaws. I wanna make sure that its mission and its goals are well stated, well defined, what its intentions are. And then there’s an area that you have to be very sensitive to, because you don’t really wanna push too hard the ET essence of it. Because you know, a lot of people might consider that to be, you know, too off the wall, and they don’t wanna involve themselves. So I think what’s beautiful about it, and you even said it yourself, is we start off with this rainforest thing. And we get that thing going globally, that’s got nothing to do with ET so to speak. Right. Okay? And at the same token, it’s creating an amnesty bill. And then now the stage is set for all this stuff to come forward. So where should it be located? That’s going to be determined by the geniuses that we pull into Your Earth, to where they feel that it’s, they feel it’s the best mind the world has to offer where it should go. So yeah, you’re talking about the Bill Clintons. You’re talking about the, I don’t know if you follow, I used to, I’m in deep admiration for example…

Alan Steinfeld

Mikhail Gorbachev. Oh yeah, you know I just met someone who, he wrote, a friend of mine published a book called Water Voices which has all the a lot of world leaders writing about the resources of water and he has a letter in there to the people of the earth about preserving our water. So I have a friend who’s connected with that and has published a letter from Gorbachev.

Jim Sparks

Well, think about what a great man he is, and the reason I say such a great man is because the former Soviet Union was our nemesis, and it was a scary, powerful nemesis at that. I think you are around to know, say-

Alan Steinfeld

Oh, I totally agree. He’s an amazing. He changed, he changed the planet, I would say, more than anyone in a way.

Jim Sparks

And what else did he do? He relinquished, he relinquished his power to do that. He so I can’t think of, you know, more self-sacrificing, there’s so many things that those former premiers have done in the past to stifle anything like that, which is a lot of murdering, killing, maiming, and…

Alan Steinfeld

and bloodshed, and he didn’t reverse. I think he’s an amazing person and should be really honored on a global scale. So what would you wanna do with Gorbachev?

Jim Sparks

Whatever he wants to do, because he is environmental, globally environmentally concerned. And so it’s the Your Earth foundation intends to have these people come together and make decisions and draw out plans. So what ET says here is sure, like what you said, you got this one doing that, you got this group doing this, and all of those are positive things, but really it’s all it’s not a 100% completely united front. Now, that’s a simple notion, but when you think about it, divided is not nearly as good as united. So if it’s 100% united, and you have all the resources dumped into it, and then you have different kinds of minds that that we wanna bring in. We wanna bring in legal minds, because each and every one of these countries are gonna have different laws as to really what ownership of property is. Now, the big picture for this get together kind of thing would be is once you’ve got a hands-on project involving people in the globe, so you can go almost any common person on the planet that can communicate, okay, other than maybe in some isolated areas they don’t know what’s going on in the world. If you bring up Your Earth, they’re going to say, yeah, here’s a ruble or here’s a penny or here’s a sack of rice to feed them, so that what we want this thing to be is something that every single person that hears Your Earth is going to know that there’s every intention for it is for the species to evolve. See, now that starts pulling in business, that starts pulling in government, and that starts pulling in what the global national security to protect all this stuff, and then data, technology.

Alan Steinfeld

I mean, connect it with some water, water conservation people. There’s a whole decade of water at the UN, so they probably would love to be involved in something like this.

Jim Sparks

Well, I can give you something, it’s called Jim Sparks 888 at yahoo.com. What I’ve asked people sometimes when I do conferences, I, you know, and I almost at the point to really go national or global with it, but I’m going to mention it to you on your show. If you go into, if you write to, it’s an email, Jim Sparks 888 at yahoo.com. If however you feel led in this area, if you write a note, send it to that email, do not expect a response for probably a pretty decent length of time because what I’m doing is gathering a data bank with that, so that when Your Earth is pretty much in its okay, we’re ready to start stages or go, which we’re getting close, then we’re going to have people who will go into that data bank and on a one-on-one basis, we’ll see what people want to do and we’ll talk to them, and then we’ll offer what we’re doing. And then if they want, there’s no pressure, but if they want to respond to something that we’re doing, and there’s the ability to do it. So if who you have in mind would go into Jim Sparks and then telling that, of course, to your listening audience, Jim Sparks 888 at yahoo.com, that’s not my website, it’s nothing like that, it’s just a where you can say hey, and even when I go to conferences, at the end of them, I’ll say, hey, you know, I’ve noticed that people want to do things. Write me a short paragraph as to where you feel led, if you feel led, and here’s where you can do it. So once we get Your Earth off the ground, those people will be contacted to see what involvement they may care to get themselves involved with.

Alan Steinfeld

Well, how close are you? Are you six months, one year away, how close?

Jim Sparks

I think we’re within six months.

Alan Steinfeld

Okay, and you have a staff of people that you’re…

Jim Sparks

I’m starting to build it. And I’m doing it with my humble means. Now, but again, I’m extremely conservative on one side of this, meaning that I’m very, very sensitive to it being formed 100% properly. So that’s the reason I’m not taking money yet. I’m in the initial stages where I can start delegating work that needs to be done to properly form this. I got to have the legal structure properly, not just a tax exempt, I mean, we want to go beyond it. So that when important, from the regular person who has little money, poor people when they give something, they’re giving a big part of their life, even though it might be a little thing to people with money and resources. So Your Earth wants those people to know that any little effort they make, or any big effort they make, any labor they make, any pennies, any monies, anything they give to this, it’s 100% right. And we want it to attract like a magnet, the most powerful influential people, corporations possibly, businesses, governments, that they know it’s sound, it’s solid, it’s clear, and then we’ll be ready to take in this stuff. Where I fall between a rock and a hard spot right now is I’m having to do this out of my own resources. Even though there’s people who are saying, yeah, we’re willing to give, put this to it and that to it and this to it. I’m getting close to even accepting it for that. So that’s the stage I’m in. So I’ve done this out of my own time and out of my own resources. I’m not trying to get a pat on the back. But I’m doing it just to be careful.

Alan Steinfeld

Right. Now let me introduce you to some people, this guy William Marks published The Water Voices and some other people are very concerned about the environment. But let me just then ask you, so we get the planet together, we save the Earth, and is that when the ETs show up, or I mean, what are they waiting for to handle all of this?

Jim Sparks

Well, you know something? They did follow according to them, okay? Again, I have a healthy suspicion of what’s said, but over the years I’m seeing some things pan out, and sometimes the hard way. According to them, and it makes, it’s really making sense to me and it may to you and your audience, is that they did follow proper protocol 40, 60 years ago, with world leaders. You’ll never hear me mention names too much when it comes to that. I’ve learned that you know you come up against walls, so you’ll hear me say the positives, like Gorbachev or what this one did.

Alan Steinfeld

Right, right, okay. So they did do protocol, they did, they did approach our politicians and say we would like to work with you, right?

Jim Sparks

Exactly, and even worse, which was even, should have been better, but even worse in those times according to these guys, again I’m talking non-human intelligent cultures, they gave technology in exchange for us not developing any more nuclear warheads, or us not going into the biological stuff, war, and all the, so that space program…

Alan Steinfeld

And so that’s not going back to the moon. We seem to have let that, that whole space thing…

Jim Sparks

I stay away from that one.

Alan Steinfeld

But it’s suspicious, right? I mean… You stay away from it because you know too much?

Jim Sparks

I stay away from that one.

Alan Steinfeld

Oh, all right. I respect that.

Jim Sparks

I’ve learned throughout the years to stay focused on what I think it’s going to take according to them to evolve the situation, and not start going there, and as tempting as that is, okay. I almost want to say I love you man, but I can’t tell you, okay.

Alan Steinfeld

No, well we’ll have to talk about it in private maybe, but no it sounds really… So anyway, at some point they come forward, you know, and they say we’re here? I mean, what happens?

Jim Sparks

Well here’s, here again. So they did this, and of course what we turned around and did, was made weapons and made money with it. Now, when I say we, whoever they approached and of course it led to all the secret agencies and yada yada yada. In their wisdom. There’s another technology that was given, and I, it’s going to sound almost as simple and plain, but free energy without pollution. I mean 100%. Now, here again, that’s a scary thing to these groups that got this stuff as far as to what about the money flow on the planet, and the way you…

Alan Steinfeld

The oil companies, all that, yeah.

Jim Sparks

But there’s, there was a solution given for that, and it still will apply down the road. This is before ET makes an appearance, so to speak. Which is, how do you handle the greed of the world when it comes to something that’s free energy? Well there’s a plan for that. Hold on just a second, there’s something making a racket here, I want to shut it off. Just give me a second. Okay.

Alan Steinfeld

I’ll just tell people I’m talking to Jim Sparks, he’s the author of The Keepers. He is also the head of the foundation called Your Earth, which he’s been talking about about saving the planet, saving the environment, and he has DVDs. You can also check his website, I’m just reintroducing it Jim-Sparks.com is your website. So go ahead, so you’re saying…

Jim Sparks

We’ll take for example, how do you handle greed when it comes to this free energy thing? Hypothetical, well for one thing is you do not want to take the power from the powers that be. You do not want to take the money and the wealth from the same powers that be. Because that is a horrendous huge wall that is not going to allow that to happen.

Alan Steinfeld

Even when they see look, there’s we don’t need the money, we have everything we need, I mean it’s a psychological thing again I guess.

Jim Sparks

It’s greed.

Alan Steinfeld

It’s greed.

Jim Sparks

And they have exactly psychological and they have every reason in their world to defy anything like this to the point of horrible things. And…

Alan Steinfeld

Well that’s the whole war in Iraq is because of that, obviously, right?

Jim Sparks

I think so. That’s my opinion, I stay out of the politics right now.

Alan Steinfeld

I think most is a lot of people’s opinion and it seems like it’s not even an opinion, it’s obvious, but anyway.

Jim Sparks

Well there are places in the world that there are more horrific things done to human beings from governments that we don’t do anything about and there’s no oil there, right?

Alan Steinfeld

No I know. I got a fellow whose mind was just in Burma and saying how awful it was there. But anyway yeah, we need to clean up our act as a planet. So you’re saying, so the oil companies they don’t want to release their hold on their greedy corporate wealth.

Jim Sparks

And it’s just not oil. It’s hey, take something simple like a utility company providing power, that’s possibly publicly held, that’s providing power for a major city. You think it wants to lose its profits? No.

Alan Steinfeld

Except if we reorganize the planet and turn to a new paradigm and restructure the society, there’s room for free energy.

Jim Sparks

Well there’s a way to do it where they get richer and more powerful, and yet it accomplishes the global goal. According to these guys, and this here’s another one I said man, this is so stupid. It’s so simple, it’s stupid, but then you know I was the stupid person for not talking about it sooner. So…

Alan Steinfeld

Wait, so the ETs say look Jim, this is how we’re going to integrate free energy and not have the corporate powers suppress it, they’ll get what they want. Is this what they said to you?

Jim Sparks

Oh yeah, and yes, but let’s remember what we have here. So it doesn’t sound so otherworldly so much. In these abduction experiences and interactions, countless times I’ve seen military personnel, paramilitary personnel, civilian personnel, I’ve seen…

Alan Steinfeld

They were in on the abductions or they were being abducted?

Jim Sparks

They’re in on the abductions with the ET, working side by side. I’ve seen even rank. And these people never hid their faces or hid their intentions. And it’s like again, this is the world that Jim Sparks is in his abductions, the memory’s not taken away. There are good people involved here. But here’s the point. Now, of course there’s a lot of negative stuff and I’m not gonna pretend there’s not. And there’s victims here and we all know that. But nonetheless and that’s part of the amnesty thing, again not for spiritual reasons but for practical. But here, a simple plan. You got, you project it out, let’s project it out 50 years, okay? All these major energy holders, be it greedy, be it not, be it powerful, don’t want to lose what they got. So here’s what you do. Can any business in your mind put yourself, put your business cap on for a minute, you don’t have to have a degree in this, can you think of any business that can confidently say that they will be in business 50 years from now? 100% guaranteed.

Alan Steinfeld

Well, you know, I guess a business that really we need, you know, like the food business, you know.

Jim Sparks

Yeah, well that’s true, we got to eat. But nonetheless, it’s hard for a business to, other than the basics, but it’s hard for any business to say I’m gonna be in business 50 years from now. Every year is a new challenge and they set up goals and profit ideas and all this.

Alan Steinfeld

Right. Okay. I follow you. So it’s hard for that kind of projection. Okay.

Jim Sparks

Yeah. So what the suggestion is now bear in mind this is people and ET, okay? When I say ET, it’s not ET solely. Sometimes it is, and a lot of times it’s what I’m about to say, it’s a conjunction between them and it’s transmitted to people like myself and here I am talking to everybody. But the point is, they get the new technology and they own it 100%, say the first five to 15 years, whatever your Earth determines with the geniuses and the minds that it has. They literally have it. It is theirs. How do you do the transformation? A small example. Let’s say you got a power plant that burns coal and oil to produce power for 2 million people. And it’s for profit. Okay. Now you can put something the size of a 10 by 10 shed right next to that power plant, this type of technology, which will do the same thing.

Alan Steinfeld

Right. Okay.

Jim Sparks

Now, but they own it. They control it. Now think of all the money they’re gonna make because A, they’re not gonna have to burn coal or oil, and all the horrific things that they push under the rug.

Alan Steinfeld

Yeah, just think how awful it is, and we could be living in a paradise with free energy and people living a much more pleasurable and enjoyable life.

Jim Sparks

Well, absolutely. But, you know, economy is what we are. The world really is business. A lot of it’s dirty, a lot of it’s clean.

Alan Steinfeld

Yeah, but what I’m getting to is why don’t the ETs show up after let’s say we get the Your Earth thing happening and say okay guys, we’re here?

Jim Sparks

Well, here’s the thing. There’s a greater power here. We’re gonna do away with these separate governments of greed. And here’s the technology that everyone can. I mean, do they not want to get involved that personally in our planetary affairs? Or what’s the problem? Why don’t they just come forward? Or is that just a ridiculous question?

Jim Sparks

No, it’s not a ridiculous notion. It goes back to the same thing. It goes back to you’re right now they’re looking down at a hornet’s nest. Okay. But let me finish real quick the economic thing, then I’ll answer that question. It gets better as far as the amnesty to save a planet for it.

Alan Steinfeld

Sure. Okay.

Jim Sparks

Because this is very very important to answer to satisfy that greed that’s so horrific. For so 15 20 years whatever your Earth determines, they own that piece of property. They sell that free energy the way they’ve been doing it. Now there are geniuses that are going to tell us how to integrate it out 20, 30 years or longer and coming out and saying this and coming out and saying that. I think again the challenge there is the fact that there are several humongous brick walls. And if you can kind of draw a picture in your mind, see a brick wall that when you look to the left it goes as far as your eyes can see to the left and right and it’s so high you can’t even see the top and you’re standing in front of this brick wall, right? Look at that brick wall again as the agencies that do not want to reveal the truth.

Alan Steinfeld

Right. Okay. I gotcha.

Jim Sparks

All right. Then take, go back about 100 feet behind that brick wall and see the same brick wall, the same size behind it, and then see about three or four more, okay? Now, here’s all these credible individuals standing in front of this wall, barking the truth, okay? But what does this brick wall think? It’s huge, humongous power. We just pat it on its little head and go pat, pat. We just ignore it. Just ignore the peons. We’ll ignore the people, which is the brick wall that are on the other side. They don’t want us to know. And why? Because of this greed factor? Or because…

Jim Sparks

That, and what are you going to do to me? And a lot of it is tied into… now it’s all different levels. Now that first brick wall is the level of national defense. Because no, I’m not saying that that’s not impenetrable. Hey, I would love to see that group win an amnesty thing before I do. Or before Bob does or before this other group does. You know, whatever it takes, I don’t need no label, I don’t have to have no claim to fame to say, hey, gee, I was a big part of making this change. As long as it happens, that’s achieving the goal. But these guys have everything to… when I say guys, government, black op, that’s the next wall. Okay? So you’ve got the back engineering wall, then you’ve got the black op wall, and then you’ve got the greed wall, then you’ve got the national defense wall. And then you’ve got people in the know who feel that if the world were to know these things, we’d all, you know, we couldn’t take it wall. And the religion as well, you know, the religious stuff.

Jim Sparks

Exactly. So the first wall falls, you know, and crumbles everybody, and then there’s another one behind it. So if you hit the first wall, you got this other wall. I think that again, you never know, because in history, walls like that have come down, and no one expected to see it.

Alan Steinfeld

Like the Berlin Wall, you were saying, yes.

Jim Sparks

Exactly. But I don’t put my bet on that one. I just, you know, just by the nature of people in those positions. So what Your Earth does is the same token, what Your Earth is, Your Earth is going to be kind of subtle and quiet when it comes to that. We’re going to create an avenue that they can take that doesn’t have to be broad based advertised all over the world. It’s an avenue to volunteer the information. Not be forced to disclose information by law, because I think that’s where the challenge is as I was saying, laws and other things for all these reasons. But to voluntarily come forward with the information without recourse. And it’s a quiet avenue and let me explain what a quiet avenue is. You may be familiar with this one. It’s an analogy of a quiet avenue. Do you remember there was a law enacted, I think don’t quote me on this exactly and you may know the exact quote, 40 or 50 years ago it’s on a federal level that if a civilian like you or me or anybody came across a crashed UFO even though the government denies these things exist, but if you were to come across a crashed UFO and not tell the proper authorities, you’re subject to a $10,000 fine and 10 years in jail.

Alan Steinfeld

I didn’t know that, that’s a law?

Jim Sparks

Yeah. And it even got worse. If you interacted with anything that might be in there, okay, then the penalties were even stiffer and it was in the, it’s in the manual, I’ve got that in the DVD, it defines it actually.

Alan Steinfeld

The manual, what manual is that?

Jim Sparks

The manual for, the government manual for in case there’s martial law or a climatic event. Like a major global or uniter like maybe a nuclear thing or it’s an outline for if all the bad things that could happen, a natural disaster and so on and so forth. What agencies handle it and what laws, what martial laws and what the laws would be in the event dramatic climatic things, clamity were to take place. And it’s common sense that the government should have a manual like that because what if there was a volcano that erupted and blew up half the country God forbid. What do we do?

Alan Steinfeld

Well I know someone who prepared for pandemics, the bird flu pandemic, he does say he did talk about that kind of manual that the government has put together for some emergency situation.

Jim Sparks

Exactly. And in there, it’s there’s that law. If you come across a crashed UFO and you don’t report it, then you’re subject to these penalties. Okay, now.

Alan Steinfeld

Oh, how funny though, but anyway.

Jim Sparks

Yes, well it is. But that’s how I’m seeing the amnesty thing. So you create this amnesty bill that essentially, almost in a not in a shouting manner, but a low-key manner. So here you have your scapegoat avenue. Here you have, what is that term people use? Loophole. Loophole, so to speak, but it’s a legitimate one that’s there, okay, it exists. That doesn’t mean they’re going to jump on it the first month. That doesn’t mean they’re going to jump on it the first year. But it’s just as low-key as that other stupid law was. Okay? That if you came across something like that, there are people, if you investigate a little bit, there’s researchers who can quote what it is. I’m horrible about things like that sometimes. But in fact, I think just it was I think it was five years ago, they repealed a part of it saying that they lifted the how many years you can be imprisoned or took that part away or, you know, you’d be punished in some other way because…

Alan Steinfeld

Right. I mean, it’s pretty out there. Why would they leave that on?

Jim Sparks

Well, because there were researchers who were harping on the government saying, hey, if you’re saying that ETs don’t exist, why do you have some law that says if you were to interact with them you’re in trouble?

Alan Steinfeld

Yeah. Well, I know it’s ridiculous because they, I mean the government does know they exist and they have those crafts. But anyway. So, the idea behind all that is what? About that amnesty?

Jim Sparks

Oh, the point I’m making with the amnesty thing is everybody has their, the ones, the people that want disclosure have all their good intentions and legal teams looking to try to…

Alan Steinfeld

Go, they’re looking to push it out into the public.

Jim Sparks

Yeah. And all I want it’s the exact same thing.

Alan Steinfeld

We don’t need a public thing. If you could just pass the legislation, they could leak out the truth without to their benefit. Without prosecution.

Jim Sparks

Because really, let’s look what really happened to all these wonderful people who had this technology and made millions and trillions on back engineering these things, God knows.

Alan Steinfeld

Right.

Jim Sparks

You’ve got thousands, tens of thousands of genius minds, and I back them. I back these people, don’t get me wrong. I support them. But the angle that we’re coming from is let’s pass something that’s in a sense once it’s there, it stays there in a low-key way. It’s not a focal point, but it’s there. It’s an escape route. It’s an avenue to…

Alan Steinfeld

Pass the amnesty stuff you’re saying.

Jim Sparks

Yeah. And even though it might be ridiculous like, oh yeah, all right, we’ll pass it because we know these things don’t exist kind of thing.

Alan Steinfeld

No, Stephen Bassett at the last X-politics, he also mentioned the amnesty for the politicians, but it does seem though, I don’t know, they’re so deep into that secret government stuff, I don’t see why it would be worth it for them to come forward.

Jim Sparks

Oh, let’s think about it now. And here’s the picture that’s shown, is that there is a growing majority in those black ops that really do want to come out with stuff. There’s, but again, they’re afraid for their own necks is one reason. And plus they want to see a world that’s more motivated for the proper use of it when they do come and they want to make sure that their neck’s not on the line. Another motivation is, what if we start seeing horrific, and I hope to God we don’t, climatic changes to the point where it becomes very difficult to go about your daily life. Because environmental problems, so they live here too.

Alan Steinfeld

Right, right, right. I get that. I totally get that. And I think that’s a, that’s a really good point. To know. So it does seem like the Your Earth foundation and other organizations that can come together, help clean our environment, unite us as one planet, as one people, will be an invitation for galactic minds to be joined, you know, for us to be a doorway into, you know, a greater civilization. I mean, right?

Jim Sparks

Beautiful way to see the picture. And you’re right on target. And bear in mind, you know, according to them and then it makes sense to me and I think it’s making sense to you. We already have the resources necessary on this globe, money and minds coupled with technology because when I say technology, the good part is it’s still in the hands of human beings even if it’s black ops it’s secret so we’re not asking ET to divulge that. We’re creating an avenue for the technology that human beings possess. And then again that leads to that type of evolved interaction and I’m very confident in that.

Alan Steinfeld

Well I think it’s great work. But let me just I mean we’re almost out of time I mean it’s great that we had this chance to really get down into the big picture. Are your abductions still happening?

Jim Sparks

They evolve. An example I like to give is I used to for years I would scream at them how come you guys can’t be more normal about interaction you got to come to my home in the middle of the night pull me out of my bedroom pull me out of my living room in some cases I’m in my car I don’t get any warning and you know and I used to be pretty nasty and adamant about that for years but things have evolved to a I may a whole year may go by and there may not be an abduction and then the next year there may be two or three and when they happen here’s an example of one. Don’t you know I it’s more in line with what I enjoy which I’m driving my car I’m going down a highway that’s relatively isolated. Not expecting anything. And this one point, this craft appeared in the sky as a light at a 45 degree angle to my vision in the car to the right. And it just like, in an instant, was in front of the car, beamed a light which went into my eyes as I was driving, which I don’t think that’s too safe. But obviously I didn’t get hurt. And it burned an image that in one hour, where to be.

Alan Steinfeld

Aha.

Jim Sparks

And I did not want to go there. And then it was gone that quick.

Alan Steinfeld

It was a particular location, an image of a location.

Jim Sparks

And it was a scary location. So they leave very little to chance. It was in a swampy area. There’s alligators there. There’s snakes there.

Alan Steinfeld

Down in Florida somewhere.

Jim Sparks

Yes. And it’s very dark. And I’m just giving an example of this is just I’m pulling one out. Right. And my vehicle was in a place that in other words, I was what they where they want you is somewhere they leave as little to chance as possible where you’re not vulnerable. I’m vulnerable, they’re vulnerable.

Alan Steinfeld

So you went there. You went to this place. And then what happened?

Jim Sparks

I was scared. I hated every second of it. And I sat in my car and at the appointed time, about a 30 footer, spherical shape craft hovered right over the car. And in that experience, I was not very nice because I had this it was just the it was something I was wanting to publish and get out at that time, which now it’s out, but. And it was a piece of work. And I was screaming at them like, how come I don’t get no help from you guys? And yada, yada, yada, yada. Just screaming in the car to these guys hovering over the car. Right. And then the telepathic message said, your emotions are getting in the way of us receiving the information you’re trying to give us. We’re going to do something to fix that. And I just felt everything just draw right out of my mind. And I blacked out. When I regained consciousness, the door was shutting. I saw the arm of a gray and the body of a gray shutting the door and running and scurrying off. And then the craft wasn’t there. So it wasn’t hovering over. So they must have had it down on the ground there somewhere. So apparently, I do get these blackout periods from time to time, even though the like that’s why I say 95%. I get these in this case.

Alan Steinfeld

Was that a recent experience?

Jim Sparks

That was a that experience was a few years ago. But that gives you the gist of how they’ve evolved.

Alan Steinfeld

But you’ve have you had some recently?

Jim Sparks

Well, there’s something that’s going on now that and I don’t mind talking about it somewhat publicly. That’s a little bit close to the vest. And I’m I’m just starting to see where I’ve heard stories from other abductees about sort of like a like almost like a city or a mother ship or something like that out in.

Alan Steinfeld

Where lots of yeah, they’re all yeah, I heard they all actually they don’t live on planets. They live on their ships.

Jim Sparks

Well, I don’t know if that’s the case or not. But see, here’s how I am. So because you’re noticing me kind of stall a little bit when I respond to this. Yeah. Yeah. And I think when I met you last year, I was kind of this was that was the beginning was that was the beginning of the year or the end of last year when we when we met.

Alan Steinfeld

That was just in the summer sometimes. Yeah, it was July right. Whatever conference was that. That was the San Jose UFO conference I met you at.

Jim Sparks

Was it the San Jose one? Or was that wasn’t at the San Jose.

Alan Steinfeld

Yeah. Well, anyway.

Jim Sparks

You had the San Jose one. Yeah, that was the one. No, I was not. You weren’t at San. I was I spoke at Mufon early this year.

Alan Steinfeld

I thought I met you. Where did I meet you? Didn’t we tape you in California? We did that interview with you in California.

Jim Sparks

Yeah, that would have been closer I think to the beginning of the year.

Alan Steinfeld

Anyway, whenever it was whatever.

Jim Sparks

All right. But what the my point I’m making here is I may have told you then, and I didn’t mean to elaborate on that so much. I just trying to get focused. Here’s how Jim Sparks approached to divulging information, which I’m open to doing. But here’s how I am. I’m getting an interaction in a way that I’m much more comfortable with as to how we meet. And what I normally let happen is when I have an experience and however that interaction was conducted, I let sometimes two, three or more months go by and sometimes upwards to a year to let the trail run cold before I divulge or describe what happened.

Alan Steinfeld

Yeah, you did mention something like that.

Jim Sparks

Yeah, because you’re gonna have I don’t want to put anything in the way to spoil how these things are happening, because it’s evolved to the point where it’s a heck of a lot more comfortable with me. There’s another side of me, and this is just the way I am and I kind of have this stubbornness and I’ve had throughout this thing is that says, before you go public with things, Jim, do your best to make sure that it is clear and concise and at least you have an understanding or a grip of the gist of what that was about. So what what I do want to throw out there kind of as a tease to everybody is if.

Alan Steinfeld

If if we have the capacity to figure out what it’s about, because you said we only know small percentages.

Jim Sparks

And then at the same time, I like to let the trail run cold. For all kinds of reasons. But what I’m seeing and starting to see, and I haven’t concluded yet, is that there are human beings, and I don’t know how long this it’s an agenda that’s been going on and I don’t know how long. But normal, regular human beings who are actually born, raised and in an environment that is akin to and it’s going to sound like a satellite or a city in deep space. And on occasion, these people are they’re human, only human. These people are brought down in groups to intermingle with what their their basics are, which are here, you know, the world. They it’s almost like a like a tour in a sense. They dress them in clothes that are current with the times. Interestingly enough, they bring them to did I mention this stuff to you when I saw you there?

Alan Steinfeld

No, I don’t think so.

Jim Sparks

And this has been going on a couple years and I’m like I say I’ll be writing about it. It actually I started to write about it and it’ll be in the next book.

Alan Steinfeld

And they bring them where you saying?

Jim Sparks

Just like almost like you would. And what phenomenal is they bring them to the most public places that for example, I’m going to make something up. They would bring them to a Disneyland or they would bring them to a very popular beach resort where they would blend in with tourists and not stand out so they can get a sense of their roots.

Alan Steinfeld

Well, you know, David Jacobs talked about this reason or about six months ago in New York. And he even showed a picture of one of these guys who went on a fishing trip with this abductee and they were hanging out. And this guy has met this person a couple of times. And he happened to show up in a photograph. Very ordinary looking person. But he was out on a fishing trip, one of these types of real human looking ETs. And David Jacobs has a whole understanding of that happening.

Jim Sparks

I did not know that. I did not know that. There’s there’s those kind too. There’s some that are wholly human that were never raised here. And they’re brought back to interact, I guess probably it’s just good for them in general to know what their stock, you know, what they’re what they’re from. And then there is individuals who are not wholly human. They’re telepathic. They look very much human. In fact, you’d have to really look at them real close and you’ll start noticing some differences that apparently well will call. Share a couple of things, you know, and it’s again, these things are flowering and this interaction. And I’m not comfortable until I’m comfortable. So I’m vague about it. But yes, so what if Jacob said that there is that, there is that. And I also know there there is something similar to something that’s partially human, mostly human, and partially ET. But they are telepathic.

Alan Steinfeld

Well, one thing I do want to ask you about, and then we’ll probably, you know, conclude here is, I should, because I just one thing that that I’ve been dealing with over my abduction experience is its female, the female grey type creatures. But one female in particular was seemed very ancient, very like the queen bee. And I had some kind of interaction with her with this mass production of beings. But that and also the idea that many, many men seem to be accompanied by a particular female ET. Is has that been your experience?

Jim Sparks

I’ve seen female ETs of this manner. For whatever reason, these eyes only get to see what I perceived to be as male. And when I when particularly when we talked about greys, but there have been occasions that definitely I’ve seen a feminine grey.

Alan Steinfeld

Even a sexual interaction, you know, because there is that sexual component to it all.

Jim Sparks

And it was that not just the sexual, it was emotional. There was because one thing these guys did not express with me and do not express with me, I see a cynical sense of humor, but that’s about as close as to emotion that I’ve ever seen from time to time. Cynical sense of humor. But the times that I’ve seen the feminine, what I perceived to be the feminine feminine grey, they’re smaller. They’re gentler. Even in their telepathic communication, there’s the way they handle you or or they ask in a sense, how are you doing? You know, things of that nature, which is something that the greys in their in their mannerism, they just they don’t do stuff like that. They’re very business-like and bop bop bop bop bop and that’s it.

Alan Steinfeld

But you would say you didn’t have a relationship a like a personal with one particular one.

Jim Sparks

Hey man, I had I was handled by so many different ones and so many different ways and these last 20 years it’s it makes my head spin really does Alan. It makes my head spin.

Alan Steinfeld

Are you anticipating I suppose you are more more encounters?

Jim Sparks

Here’s what I’ve learned throughout the years that it’s need to know. As long as I’m carrying on in a way that’s productive and progressive and going in the right direction, then it’s like there’s no interaction. I’m left alone. And then it when it gets to areas where it’s a need to know boom, there’s interaction.

Alan Steinfeld

So are you putting all your energy now into the Your Earth Foundation? Is that where your whole focus?

Jim Sparks

It’s my full, it’s my full-time work. My business I think when you first met me, and you were graciously supportive in many ways. I had made the decision, I think a couple of months prior to when I met you that my business was legal tax relief and I also handled debt settling. That’s my that was my company. And that occupied over 60 hours of my hours a week, sometimes more. And so what I did was I made a decision to make this my full-time work and filter out the business. So I’m an author, I got the book published, I got the DVD out, I’m writing another one. So, you know, when it’s the sales of books and the lectures and talks and stuff like that, which is is supporting me now barely. But, you know, that’s the decision I made, but I didn’t have time to do it full. So as long as the as long as this is can support me, then I can devote 100% full time to it, plus. If it gets to the point where it can’t, and I’m a person of humble humble means, if I can’t, you know, then I’m gonna have to get back into business. But I’m thinking positive and I feel like it’s gonna it’s gonna sustain me.

Alan Steinfeld

So to answer your question, yes, Your Earth Foundation is such an important thing. I can’t see how it could not support you and the efforts because it’s not for you, it’s for all of us.

Jim Sparks

It is. I’m committed to that. That’s what I’m committed to.

Alan Steinfeld

Right. No, I think there couldn’t be a higher calling for you to pursue than to save the planet. I mean, for all of it.

Jim Sparks

Well, not. I try to think of everybody, but you can’t think of everybody. And I try to think of the minds that think like, oh, this person’s doing this for money, or this person’s doing this for this, or this person is doing that for that. And I just they really extra sensitive to that stuff. I mean, money is something we all need to pay the rent and pay the mortgage. Cause if you don’t, they’re gonna put you out in the street.

Alan Steinfeld

Yeah, but because of your abduction experience, you saw a bigger picture of who you really were. And it’s because of your interactions that you…

Jim Sparks

It absolutely changed, yeah, it absolutely changed my priorities. That’s right. And you know, money’s not as important as saving the human race, let’s say. It’s not. I mean, I know it sounds sounds almost like a science fiction movie, but it’s where it all comes down. I can I have lived and I can live very comfortably pursuing what my business is and I’m in a whole different world when it comes to this. But I just I just don’t look at things the same because once like you said, once enlightened, then you just you have a different take and it changes your priorities.

Alan Steinfeld

Well, Jim, thanks for all the work you’re doing.

Jim Sparks

Well, thank you for having me on and I thank you for the opportunity to have to be able to converse in depth as you have and get more into what what’s going on.

Alan Steinfeld

And get past what are they look like and you know that kind of stuff.

Jim Sparks

Well, that’s just 101. We have to get beyond that to get to because I think you’ve had access to real I wasn’t gonna say top secret, but real exclusive information because of your conscious abduction experience. Very open. Yes. Very open. I don’t mean to override you, but very open when it comes to the human aspect of it that’s in conjunction with ET, which is the military, paramilitary black ops. I’m not saying they’re 100% privy to everything they do because I’m not. But when when interactions take place, these people just they don’t hide themselves. It kind of really amazes me. But then I’m really strong about not memorizing their faces and who they are and

Alan Steinfeld

Oh, you don’t memorize their faces because you…

Jim Sparks

No, I do my best not to. And I don’t know their names or anything like that. And when there’s when there’s interactions like that can be brief or sometimes it’s out of distance in a room. And but clearly one will see that there’s people involved here. So.

Alan Steinfeld

Are they only US military or are there other…

Jim Sparks

I’ve seen others. I’ve seen again, it may be just paramilitary too. So I gotta be real careful with that. You know, some people are thinking Army, Navy, Marines, Air Force. Paramilitary meaning a an agency of of that. But nonetheless, which one, which branch, you know, who knows? Um, but yes, I’ve seen Asian. I’ve seen Hispanic. Right.

Alan Steinfeld

From from those countries?

Jim Sparks

From from that those parts of the world. Yeah, when I say Asian, it could cover China, you know, any part of Asia. Right. And I’ve seen Hispanic and I’ve seen, you know, um, black. I’ve seen definitely the majority are American in my experiences. The majority. But I’ve seen different. And German, by the way, that’s always stood out too, for whatever reason.

Alan Steinfeld

German. Well, it’s it’s fascinating times that we’re in and you know, it seems like, you know, this information is right at the forefront of of change, of earth changing in a very positive way. I really think the UFO experience and the UFO phenomena is here to help us on all levels of our consciousness.

Jim Sparks

Haven’t we got to do it first? So if I if we can get your listeners to it would be supporting them. It would be supporting our work if we can get them on that. Jim Hyphen or Jim Dash, whatever you’re more comfortable with. Sparks dot com. I couldn’t get Jim Sparks. That was taken already. So you put together something for your listeners.

Alan Steinfeld

Okay, that’s great. This show is gonna be archived as well. So it’ll be on the bbpsradio.com website and you just go to archive to new realities.

Jim Sparks

Yeah. So we’re right we’re broadcasting live at the moment and then it archive it. Is that how you go?

Alan Steinfeld

I’ll archive it. I’ll also archive it on my website newrealities.com website. You can archive it on your website if you want to. And I mean just have people have a reference for this. So thanks, so jim-sparks.com is how how to find you.

Jim Sparks

Yeah. And Your Earth doesn’t have a website yet. No, but we’re getting close. And you know not to I hate to throw all these sides, but if the Jim Sparks 888 at Yahoo. If you want to just give me a yell or I don’t know that’s the right way to say it, but drop a line about you know. Feel that you would like to involve yourself on the Your Earth thing. But you can and again as I were collecting that and I respond to them all inevitably I start from the latest and work my way up. And then of course we’re gonna have people who goes over all of it when when Your Earth is going.

Alan Steinfeld

Okay, so give us updates, you know, if you get the hit to call and and come back and tell us like what’s happening. I totally welcome that.

Jim Sparks

Well great. Thank you for that. And I’ll we’ll do that.

Alan Steinfeld

Absolutely. No, it’s exciting stuff. And any adoptions that let us know tell us that too.

Jim Sparks

Okay, thank you for that opportunity and that offer I’ll take advantage of it for everybody’s sake.

Alan Steinfeld

You have my number anyway.

Jim Sparks

Yup I sure do.

Alan Steinfeld

I’m gonna end with this song, Neil Young After the Gold Rush you know that last verse?

Jim Sparks

Sure.

Alan Steinfeld

He talks about the shift to silver spaceships coming.

Jim Sparks

Yeah.

Alan Steinfeld

Anyway, thanks Jim.

Jim Sparks

Okay, I’ll talk to you out right thank you enjoy.

Alan Steinfeld

This is New Realities with Alan Steinfeld and if you want to reach me I’m at newrealities@earthlink.net. You can check out my website which is newrealities.com or newrealities.tv. On newrealities.com you can look at other podcasts I have for my bps radio show. So thank you for listening and here is a little tribute to Jim and his work and after the Gold Rush Neil Young.