New Realities recorded on March 15, 2016
Summary
In this extensive interview, Alan Steinfeld speaks with scientist and researcher Dan Winter in the Pyrenees. They delve deeply into the physics of sacred geometry, specifically the connection between the twin towers of Gerona and Rennes-le-Château. Winter explains how the ‘Golden Mean’ ratio causes gravity through constructive wave interference and implosive charge collapse. The discussion spans a variety of esoteric topics from an electrical engineering perspective, including Kundalini awakening, phase conjugation, the construction of ‘portals’ for plasma acceleration, and the historical roles of extraterrestrials. Winter concludes that human spiritual evolution—achieving a coherent plasma aura or ‘bliss’—is an essential physical process that ultimately aids the stabilization of the Earth and the sun.
Transcript
Alan Steinfeld
Welcome to New Realities. I’m Alan Steinfeld, and I’m very happy to be here in the south of France with one of the innovators of science, spirituality, and technology, Dan Winter, at his lovely place at the base of the Pyrenees. Dan, thank you.
Dan Winter
Thank you. We’re just so lucky. It’s gorgeous here today.
Alan Steinfeld
It is very nice here, springtime in the Pyrenees. I just come back from a very interesting adventure with Gerona, Spain, an old Catalan city, and Rennes-le-Château, where the Magdalene mysteries are. According to your work, there’s a relationship between the tower that’s in Rennes-le-Château, the Magdalene tower, and the tower that used to be in Gerona that Saunière built based on the plans that he found. So what is the relationship? How does that add to your work and the overall meaning of life, Dan?
Dan Winter
Well, specifically on the geometry of the two twin towers, I originally got interested with Soshi’s friend Patrice and her book The Portal.
Alan Steinfeld
That’s right. I just came back from a trip with Patrice Chaplin and her book called The Portal. Is that how you first discovered the twin towers?
Dan Winter
We had been leading tours of the science of the Grail mysteries here for many years. We taught the physics that the pentagram of magnetics around Rennes-le-Château, what is called the portal, was actually the electric field of implosive compression that produces acceleration.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay, we’ll get back to implosive compression because that’s a big topic and I’d like you to define that. But we’ll just do the Rennes-le-Château mystery and then we’ll go to define those terms.
Dan Winter
But then, of course, all the Grail sites were discussing what Patrice had so nicely pointed out, was that apparently in the mythology that there was a connection between the Magdalene Tower at Gerona and the Magdalene Tower at Rennes-le-Château. We knew that in the five sites, for example, that Vincent found around Saint-Rémy…
Alan Steinfeld
Vincent Bridges, that is.
Dan Winter
Yes, where he found the five sites, three of which were named Magdalene around Saint-Rémy where Nostradamus had his predictive tower. We know phase conjugation, the pent, is related to how you scry to see the future, what Nostradamus was doing. So we knew a lot about magnetics creating a certain bioactive field effect. So that’s the background. Then I started looking at the two twin towers. And of course, the story was, sort of right out of Lord of the Rings and Aragon, that the wizard would go to the top of the tower and project a spell, and that they would then find themselves projected from those two towers precisely here to the top of Canigou, which is right behind us.
Alan Steinfeld
And Canigou is the midpoint between the tower in Gerona and the tower in Rennes-le-Château, which is a pretty interesting geometry right there.
Dan Winter
Almost precisely the midpoint. And the term for that electrically, where two energy beams meet in a precise symmetry, the term for that is sometimes called phase conjugation, which just means the geometry that looks like the Caduceus of Hermes.
Alan Steinfeld
So it has to do with Vesica Piscis as well?
Dan Winter
It basically, it’s the way if two lasers meet each other from opposite directions to create self-organization and what’s called time reversal, the portal effect in physics. That precise alignment of how the two beams meet is called phase conjugation. And to visualize that, imagine two pine cones learning to kiss noses.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, it’d be like that. But if there wasn’t a laser beam projected from these towers, there was a thought beam that was projected to the top of Canigou.
Dan Winter
We’re saying it’s a field effect, what some people might call a dream spell. But then the next sort of fun part of this, and we did a computer animation of this, was that if you animate in 3D the actual shape of this mountain, Canigou, which is the sacred Cathar mountain we live on, that the animation is actually a pine cone.
Alan Steinfeld
What do you mean by animate the mountain?
Dan Winter
Well, actually, it’s very easy to do. First of all, you can see the animation at the article I wrote about this question about the two towers, which is goldenmean.info/twintowers. You’ll see the animation. But it’s surprisingly easy to do in this case. You just take Google Earth in 3D map, and as you look at the Earth on the side instead of from above, you see that Canigou is a pine cone.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay, so it’s a pine cone there, and we have the towers here and the towers there. And these three points did what? Why was Saunière so intent? Because people go to Rennes-le-Château and think that’s the mystery. They don’t realize that Gerona is actually the key to the mystery at Rennes-le-Château.
Dan Winter
You know, it really isn’t even so much about a place as it is about the experience of compressing and accelerating living plasma, your aura, what you would call a portal. So people run around to sacred spaces and they don’t realize that it’s an engineered phenomenon that you can make. And that’s where I come into this.
Alan Steinfeld
So it can create an artificial portal that’s interdimensional?
Dan Winter
Well, you know, the Celts, the Druids, the Cathars, the ancient ones, the Anunnaki, they all knew how to do this. They called it Shem or highward firestone or a raised altar.
Alan Steinfeld
That’s what the sacred circles were about, the standing stones, all of that was to create phase conjugation.
Dan Winter
Conjugation. It’s what an electrical engineer would describe the reason why a stone circle like Stonehenge accelerates seed germination. That’s the field effect that’s bioactive. And that’s what we make.
Alan Steinfeld
But phase conjugation creates a kind of warping of time-space?
Dan Winter
Well, first of all, to visualize it, just visualize a rose from the top. It’s actually 10 spirals of the golden mean. But it produces the kind of compression that produces acceleration. And that is true of not just optics, but dielectrics and magnetics.
Alan Steinfeld
But getting back to Rennes-le-Château now, why was the tower in Gerona so important to Saunière after he renovated the Magdalene tower?
Dan Winter
Well, the context is that the place from which the land is inhabited is the place from which charge can embed and radiate. For example, if you’re steering tornadoes. Maybe you’re American, you just notice that tornadoes can be trouble. If you want to steer them, you need to be embedded in the land to get that kind of leverage.
Alan Steinfeld
So he was actually controlling some of the earth energies.
Dan Winter
Well, that’s what the history of the Celts and the Cathars and the Druids is. It’s the history of knowing how to use your plasma to throw your weight around.
Alan Steinfeld
How did he make so much… I mean, going back to the mysteries there, how was he able to make so much money or get that gold coming in, the abundance?
Dan Winter
Well, we’re kind of jumping around here. First of all, it’s my opinion that Saunière really didn’t understand. But he tried hard, but he got into bad astral hygiene actually. But that Boudet, who was his partner, who was the brains…
Alan Steinfeld
The other priest.
Dan Winter
And well, the Templar story, we actually had some brains. And the magnetic maps they started making, and you know Boudet’s book… Boudet was the priest who was Saunière’s partner from the neighboring village. And he wrote a book on the history of Celtic language, which has to do with actually the physics of language which has to do with what’s called plasma residues. The shadows of which are what we’re talking about, how you compress living charge, implode, and propagate yourself. So these guys knew a little something around Saunière, but not so much Saunière himself probably.
Alan Steinfeld
But they knew there was a mystery between Gerona because he had his housekeeper moved to Gerona and he would come and visit her and gave her money and gave the people there in Gerona money to build this other tower. So did you realize there was a tower before you read Patrice’s book?
Dan Winter
It came from the website from his friend there. You know, I learned from the same place most people learned.
Alan Steinfeld
But did that complete something for you when you realized Gerona was part of the Rennes-le-Château?
Dan Winter
Actually, you know, we had found dozens of these fractal magnetic maps around the world. Everybody knows about them. So this was just another piece in a big puzzle. But the physics is so useful and instructive that I’m happy to talk about it. And I think it is the physics that’s worth emphasizing. That when your aura is large and coherent, and that’s a prerequisite. If your aura is large and coherent, what they would call Ka in Egypt, boat to the underworld, which is the origin of the word Cathar and Catholic by the way. That when you have phase coherence there, then the portion of your aura that can survive compression acceleration, which is called Ba, as in Kabbalah, Merkaba. The Ba is the part like the seed from the husk that can be projected through the speed of light. So if you can lucid dream, you got a shot at it, otherwise you don’t even bother trying pretty much. So if all of that’s true, then there are certain places which are arranged like a Shem unto the Lord, Sheman, Shem, Alchemy, Chem scheme, that make a black hole.
Alan Steinfeld
And this is what we’re calling portal.
Dan Winter
What’s calling portal is a magnetic dielectric geometry which is recursive fractal phase conjugate in golden ratio, and thus the phase velocities add and multiply constructively during compression, producing acceleration out of compression. And that is the physics.
Alan Steinfeld
That’s the physics. So when you redo the Rennes-le-Château mysteries, what would you emphasize as the mystery?
Dan Winter
Well, I just wanted to drop my little punchline about this Canigou here being a pine cone. Because I was the one who then concluded that the name Perpignan, which is Perpignan the city, was actually named by the fact that when you accelerate, if you want to actually lift your aura, you have to go through the pine cone. So when you get to this area as a shaman, what you do is you go through the pine cone needle. It’s like, it’s more difficult to go through the eye of the needle…
Alan Steinfeld
You mean when you go to the top of Canigou.
Dan Winter
It’s a Perpignan. Literally, Perpignan is the place where you’re tested to see if your plasma can survive compression acceleration.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, this is why this was the final point on the initiate journey that we just did with Patrice Chaplin and her book called The Portal.
Dan Winter
An initiation is an interesting word for it. It’s actually measurable in terms of whether your aura grows. You know, the stations of the cross, it’s a sequence of symmetry elements which collectively produce the compression from the right angles. The synergy of which needs to be conjugate.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay, thank you for that. And we’ll make that a little something. But what was the big mystery at Rennes-le-Château then, according to you?
Dan Winter
In my view, remember, the history of this is that the chief issue of our ancestors, whether you call them Seraphim, Anunnaki, or Elohim, was premature aging. And I believe the correct translation of the word Shem, which later became the word altar in church, Shem stone or shaman or scem, which is our word for black hole. Sitchin’s term for that, highward firestone, really means a phase conjugate dielectric capacitor. And so their skill, which was Hermes, Enki, Thoth, Tehuti, was to make that electric field. And that electric field, in short, like the Garden of Eden, is an electric field designed to eliminate aging.
Alan Steinfeld
Is that what the mysteries of Rennes-le-Château were?
Dan Winter
Another way to say that is, and this is the local joke, is that it’s a full service necropolis. Which is to say a full service city of the dead. You know, you go to McDonald’s, everything’s on the menu you want. When you’re gonna die, everything’s on the menu over there. Here’s the gold powder over here, and here you can get your astral plasma sucked back into a dead body. It’s a full service city for dead people.
Alan Steinfeld
And this is what Saunière was doing, trying to raise the dead, and that’s how he got money from the Habsburgs because he ensured their immortality.
Dan Winter
But remember, this business of giving some place to go for dead people is as old as the Essenes.
Alan Steinfeld
But it’s older, it’s the Egyptian. That’s why they mummified the body.
Dan Winter
And the mummification was natron, which is a capacitive effect. And the flesh turned to gold. So the physics is that if you want to get your plasma accelerated and not have to incarnate, rich people are willing to pay big bucks to the administrators of the city of the dead. And this was happening for centuries before Saunière was ever on the scene. And astrally, I think he was something of a klutz.
Alan Steinfeld
He was, because he got stuck himself and never made it and kind of flipped out.
Dan Winter
Was a major alcoholic. But I mean one of the stories was that, you know, if a dead ghost is sucked back in to a dead body. So you have somebody that just died, and if you allow them to temporarily use a dead body to regain their faculties, do their work, whatever, then they don’t need to reincarnate. That’s the story. It’s part of this Les Risen story, which means the Risen. It was actually a series of steps by which dead people could quote unquote become immortal.
Alan Steinfeld
So that’s the secret to Rennes-le-Château.
Dan Winter
It starts with gold powder. It involves being a magnetic pentagram for accelerating your plasma. And there’s good physics there in the sense that if you die properly in that kind of magnetic compression which you call a portal, you have a better shot of getting your plasma through the sun.
Alan Steinfeld
But a big part of that, and the journey that Patrice went on, was to work on yourself, know thyself, clean up all your karma or your emotional baggage, so you have a clean plasma field in which to enter these things, so it doesn’t backfire on you.
Dan Winter
And as a scientist talking about that, what you say is that your tissue needs to become phase conjugate gradually, because the compression and charge density, if it happens suddenly, as it did in my case with kundalini, you know, you cry for a year.
Alan Steinfeld
Ah, because the emotions are just…
Dan Winter
And you spit out a lot of mucus and you pee a lot.
Alan Steinfeld
Really? And that happened to you at what age?
Dan Winter
Oh, you know, age 21 or something like that. But you know, so intense bliss, or intense kundalini, or intense tantra, whatever you want to call it, is plasma compression. And the first thing that happens is that everything that doesn’t fit the symmetry is squeezed out. And that is taught specifically only as physics in phase conjugate optics. It’s the first time we measured self-organization, and now I’ve learned how to do that dielectrically and magnetically as well.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, we’ll get to that, but the thing I just want to complete here is so it’s like know thyself, it’s the Socratic thing. When you know yourself, you do our phase conjugate, as you would say.
Dan Winter
And if I was describing the word know yourself as an electrical engineer, I would quote from the Vedas and say, to be able to self-refer is to be self-aware. And in physics, what that means is the only angle at which a wave, electric, can self-re-enter is the golden spiral. So non-destructive self-re-entry defines self-awareness because it defines plasma compression.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, we’ll do a whole show on the golden spiral, but any more to say about the Rennes-le-Château as we finish up this little…
Dan Winter
Well, I would just encourage people not to waste their airline tickets running around the world looking for sacred spots. It’s not a bad thing. But the real physics is getting your plasma organized and coherent and compressed and accelerated. And 99% of that is the work, the hygiene, which is diet and yoga etc, and to live in a space where there is charge.
Alan Steinfeld
And the charge though is a sacred space.
Dan Winter
And remember sacred space is not subjective. It’s measurable, and it should be measured. It’s measured as fractality in air, harmonic inclusiveness magnetically, which predicts vitality in all living things. So these things are not subjective.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay. I get that. I get that. So that’s your final word on the Rennes-le-Château mystery.
Dan Winter
The grail is in the blood, absolutely literally. And the only grail is fractality, and the best fractality is biologic. And the 3D model of that is the stellated dodeca.
Alan Steinfeld
Alright, so the grail mysteries, the Cathars, the Merovingian kings, the what Saunière found, the double spiral helix, all that is can be summed up in phase conjugation.
Dan Winter
Well, you know, implosive compression, fractality, whatever you want to call it. The fact is, history is a forgettable child’s intro to physics. And once you understand the principle, you can then forget it. Because in fact, you know, the history of Earth is going to become really forgettable as soon as you get your plasma through the sun. So do the science and dump the…
Alan Steinfeld
Is that where we’re heading in 2012?
Dan Winter
As a plasma being, the only way out of here is through the heart of the sun. So the sun’s orgasm is an opportunity for those who can do compression.
Alan Steinfeld
And when will the sun have the orgasm?
Dan Winter
It’s toast for those who don’t.
Alan Steinfeld
When do you expect?
Dan Winter
I say this year, not next.
Alan Steinfeld
This year? 2011?
Dan Winter
That’s my humble opinion.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, we’ll be back with Dan Winter. Thank you. And we’ll define some of these terms.
Dan Winter
That was a happily ever after by the way.
Alan Steinfeld
No, we’ll define some terms. And thanks for watching New Realities. This is Alan Steinfeld, and if you have any questions… What’s your website?
Dan Winter
goldenmean.info
Alan Steinfeld
Okay. Thanks. So keep it running. No, keep it running, because I’m just going to go into the next show about the golden mean thing. Are you okay? You want to put some pants on?
Dan Winter
No, no.
Soshi
I have an image of Canigou and stuff.
Alan Steinfeld
Yeah, I will. Did that explain anything, you think?
Soshi
Yeah. But one of the things I was wondering is, if you’re not sensitive enough to know the, or know how to measure it through physics, the charge of a place, what are some signs that a place has…
Alan Steinfeld
Use your body as the key.
Dan Winter
That’s good. And there are geomantic signs as well, but yes. Like certain ferns and certain yarrow plants, and certain tree shapes.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh, that’s interesting.
Dan Winter
But you also, if you’re in touch with lucid dreaming, as he says, then you know when your consciousness shifts, when you enter phase lock, right?
Alan Steinfeld
Your plasma begins to compress and then accelerate. And then you feel it. You feel it. That’s how the shamans were able to discover the sacred spaces because they felt it in their body and in their conscious awareness. So, okay, we’ll go back to New Realities. Any other questions there, Soshi?
Dan Winter
We should have Soshi ask questions as part of the film.
Alan Steinfeld
Yeah, do you want to come on and ask questions?
Soshi
No.
Alan Steinfeld
You do. You want to sit here? You can…
Soshi
No, Soshi, you’re fine.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay. We’ll go back.
Alan Steinfeld
Welcome to New Realities. I am back with Dan Winter, and we’re going to talk about the golden mean ratio, and why is that, why that is so important. And Dan, what’s so amazing about Dan is Dan’s discovered and created and founded the physics of spirituality, a physics of life. And this is very much connected to the golden mean ratio. Right?
Dan Winter
Well… Overdo the intro. Let’s not give me too much credit, you know. Somebody once said, you know, who discovered golden mean? I said, oh, the same lady who invented pi, you know.
Alan Steinfeld
I didn’t say you invented the golden mean, but you did discover a sort of a physics to the life force.
Dan Winter
It’s actually so obvious that since golden ratio is the only solution to constructive wave interference…
Alan Steinfeld
Wait, wait, you have to define constructive, you have to define these terms. Because I really want this audience not to lose you. I don’t want to lose you. So, okay, you said the phi ratio or the golden mean is the…
Dan Winter
Solution to constructive wave interference.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay, now you have to explain wave interference.
Dan Winter
If you visualize a rose.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay.
Dan Winter
Which in this case is 10 golden spirals, which is a top-down view of DNA and every living protein. Okay. And the animation at goldenmean.info/grail in 3D, and you’ll see that in that geometry when the waves meet in a stellated pentacle by golden mean ratio, every time the waves meet, they can add and multiply recursively constructively.
Alan Steinfeld
So how many waves? These 10 waves meeting?
Dan Winter
Well, you got 10 golden mean spirals going to center.
Alan Steinfeld
10 different ones at different angles.
Dan Winter
At 36 degree angles. That’s the reason DNA exists, and that’s precisely the physics of hydrogen I’ve now proven.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay. So these 10 spirals meet in wave…
Dan Winter
It’s just a, if you took a pentagram inside another pentagram inside another pentagram, did that infinitely, it’s the same picture.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay. So you get these waves meeting, and then what happens?
Dan Winter
Remember, golden mean ratio is the only progression that adds and multiplies. What Einstein didn’t know is that’s what all waves have to do.
Alan Steinfeld
Is multiply and add.
Dan Winter
That’s right. It’s called recursive interference or recursive heterodyning.
Alan Steinfeld
So if it adds and multiplies, what does that do to anything?
Dan Winter
Well, recursive addition is multiplying. So what happens is the waves are adding and multiplying, and all the kids fit the nest.
Alan Steinfeld
What do you mean?
Dan Winter
That means the result of adding and multiplying produces another wave that also goes into the nest and fits. No destructive wave interference. All constructive wave interference.
Alan Steinfeld
And why is the golden mean, how did that happen? Is that just a natural causation of…
Dan Winter
Well, let me be clear. It wasn’t my idea.
Alan Steinfeld
No, I know. I know you didn’t create the golden mean ratio. But how do you think… is that true of all life?
Dan Winter
If Einstein had understood, he would have figured out why an object falls to the ground. I will tell you for sure.
Alan Steinfeld
Why? Wait, why?
Dan Winter
Because that is the reason objects fall to the ground.
Alan Steinfeld
Why? Wait, why?
Dan Winter
Gravity and hydrogen definitely would not exist without it, for sure.
Alan Steinfeld
Without a golden mean ratio.
Dan Winter
Absolutely certain.
Alan Steinfeld
Why do objects fall to the ground because of the golden mean?
Dan Winter
That’s right. Objects fall to the ground because of the golden mean. That’s the title of this film.
Alan Steinfeld
But why? What is it about the golden mean that makes…?
Dan Winter
See, okay, you got this picture, right? Waves are adding and multiplying. And they’re using the golden mean ratio. As they come to center, the top-down view of DNA… They are adding and multiplying recursively constructively.
Dan Winter
What Einstein didn’t figure out was that if you have constructive wave interference, the interference adds and multiplies their wave velocity as well as their wave length.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay.
Dan Winter
And when the velocity of the wavefront, it’s called charge, adds and multiplies, suddenly you’re getting acceleration of charge out of compression of charge. And you know what the name for that is?
Alan Steinfeld
Free energy?
Dan Winter
No. The name for that is gravity.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh, gravity. Oh, really? So it has nothing to do with two masses. Oh, wait, the mass creates a golden… What does it have to do with two masses? Gravity.
Dan Winter
There is no other definition of gravity. Gravity is the acceleration of charge caused by fractality or phase conjugation.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay. There is no other definition of gravity.
Dan Winter
But if you have two masses, right? That are near each other, one bigger than the other one. The bigger one will create a gravitational effect on the smaller one. How do you relate that to what you just said? The amount of charge that’s being accelerated is proportional to the amount of mass. Remember, mass is only a name for the amount of inertia stored by rotation. Time is only a name for the period of that charge rotation. Mass and time both must be fractal to emerge from chaos. Another way to think about your question is to realize that after I proved that golden ratio times Planck is hydrogen radii, we now have new evidence that the only reason any atom has gravity is because the nucleus is fractal and golden ratio to its electrons.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, how could the nucleus be fractal if there’s only, let’s say, one proton in it as hydrogen?
Dan Winter
Well, that’s what I proved was that Planck length times golden ratio takes the center of hydrogen and shows its golden ratio to the electrons. The radii of hydrogen. That’s my new equation.
Alan Steinfeld
But isn’t fractal mean recurring patterns?
Dan Winter
And there’s no more perfect fractal than golden ratio.
Alan Steinfeld
Right. But where is the golden ratio in the hydrogen atom?
Dan Winter
Planck length times golden ratio powers precisely predicts the radii of hydrogen. Planck time times golden ratio predicts the frequencies of hydrogen. And those are my new equations.
Alan Steinfeld
Right. So, let’s say if we were in a parallel universe, let’s say, would it be the same there?
Dan Winter
Absolutely. For sure.
Alan Steinfeld
But then what would make a parallel universe if all measurements were the same? Something has to change in order for a parallel universe to exist.
Dan Winter
Sometimes you need one beam precisely opposed to another to phase conjugate.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay, we’ll move on. I think I followed you.
Dan Winter
So but the point, I’d like to summarize and just say that you know, Moon proved that the geometry of the hadrons, the protons and neutrons of the nucleus, was Platonic. And we now know that that is identical to the geometry of the electrons. In other words, the nucleus is perfectly fractal, golden ratio phase conjugate, what’s true of the electron shells. So you can make a geometric case that the electrons are fractal to the nucleus. What that means is implosive charge collapse. And implosive charge collapse is the cause of gravity, and golden ratio is the solution to implosive charge collapse. And the origin of all centripetal and self-organizing forces, especially including the origin of color, perception, and bliss.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay, so if you understand what creates a gravitational force, you understand then what can get in the way of gravitation or create anti-gravity.
Dan Winter
That’s right.
Alan Steinfeld
And so have you created anti-gravity machines based on this?
Dan Winter
Well, let’s say our group has accounted for dozens of examples of electrical anti-gravity devices. There are hundreds of those things around. No one’s explained how they work before me, perhaps.
Alan Steinfeld
But have you, can you create them? Are they easy to create?
Dan Winter
Yeah, you know, Townsend Brown’s floating capacitors. So why aren’t we developing this technology? Because you cannot use a technology that you do not understand fundamentally. So our first problem is education. Get it?
Alan Steinfeld
So this is why we’re doing this video because we need to people to understand…
Dan Winter
And the first thing we need to do is teach them to stop calling it free energy, because it ain’t.
Alan Steinfeld
It’s not free because…
Dan Winter
Not even close.
Alan Steinfeld
But it does, where does it come from, the energy?
Dan Winter
The gravity field of the Earth is assembled due to a great deal of effort by the Earth getting fractal. Like for example, the arrangement of the interstellar masses is dodeca, the arrangement of the Earth grid is dodeca, and the arrangement of palladium cold fusion is dodeca for a reason, because that’s how you make golden ratio, and that’s how you stabilize gravity.
Alan Steinfeld
So dodeca is the key Platonic form to creating all this.
Dan Winter
That’s right. So if you’re a dumb highway engineer and you put some highway somewhere and you chop up a magnetic line that was making a dodeca, suddenly your atmosphere goes bye-bye.
Alan Steinfeld
So your solution to environmental control would be to create dodecas throughout the Earth.
Dan Winter
You need to know what was called Gaia, which was the ability of the Earth to be self-regulating, in physics, is only due to the fact that she is electrically centripetal. And if we mess up the fractality, she ain’t gonna be anymore. So yes, she’s self-organizing, but you need to know how she got self-organizing. And that is a geometry problem that we have solved.
Alan Steinfeld
But do you think the reversal of the polarities is the Earth reorganizing its magnetic field based on the centripetal force?
Dan Winter
Centripetal force, yes. To produce centripetal… Well, we have less time right now for the whole 2012 pole shift lecture. We did that many times. But what does happen when the Earth gets fractally resonant, a magnetic reversal is a real opportunity to self-organize essentially.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay, so that is, so if the golden mean ratio creates, wait… Tell us more about practically, the golden mean ratio to practically apply to your own life.
Dan Winter
Getting your aura large and robust is definitely about having clear survival intent. And clear survival intent in practical terms means your memory is perfectly fractal, meaning the inside looks like the outside. So the exercise to get fractal is simple. What do you do to get fractal? Your food, your water, your house, your magnetism. Right. What does it look like? You know, you make a magnetic map of roses, ferns, pinecones, onions. It’s really simple. You start, you make a magnetic map of your bed, your house, your garden, and your city. And everyone must look like a rose.
Alan Steinfeld
Must have that…
Dan Winter
And then you’re done. Actually I forgot something. You start with your heart.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, the heart already looks like a rose though.
Dan Winter
On your good days.
Alan Steinfeld
No, but it has that double torus effect.
Dan Winter
Actually, when you do a power spectrum of the EKG, you learn a lot.
Alan Steinfeld
So what are you learning about the heart?
Dan Winter
Well, I invented the mathematics and the term heart coherence. And what we know is, medicine is clear that the number of harmonics in your heart predict whether or not you have an immune system. That’s called harmonic inclusiveness. What medicine doesn’t know is that golden ratio is the solution to that problem as well.
Alan Steinfeld
So how do we increase that to create more immune?
Dan Winter
Remember, there’s 10,000 papers in the medical literature on what is harmonic inclusiveness and heart rate variability. So every doctor has looked at this question. Because he knows if there’s only one harmonic in your heart’s rate, you are toast. So every doctor can answer your question.
Alan Steinfeld
But how do we change it? That’s what I’m asking you.
Dan Winter
Well, effectively, it means that you need maximum harmonic inclusiveness. Let me give you an example. Irving Dardik, chairman of the Olympic Medical Committee who invented harmonic inclusiveness and heart, realized that every single athlete who does extreme exercise and then stops, so his heart rate makes a square, he gets a very high number of heart attacks. It’s a good way to die.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh really?
Dan Winter
Yeah. Now, he discovers the opposite, which is to say your heart rate needs to make up and then down, and then up a little less by golden ratio. And that’s called a caduceus. And when your heart rate makes a caduceus, suddenly you’re an Olympic athlete, and that produces harmonic inclusiveness, and that produces a still point at the end called human bliss.
Alan Steinfeld
You see, that’s the first thing I understood from what you’ve said. Oh dear. No, no, no, but human bliss is the ultimate expression of the golden mean ratio.
Dan Winter
A successful compression, shall we say.
Alan Steinfeld
Successful compression, or what you’re saying, the phase harmonic of the golden mean ratio.
Dan Winter
Of course, as an electrical engineer I still have a little difficulty discriminating that from death, but the description works.
Alan Steinfeld
Bliss from death?
Dan Winter
It’s electrically it’s about the same. It is a successful death.
Alan Steinfeld
No, but can’t you take the body with us into light?
Dan Winter
What actually goes, and Korotkov measured it, is the coherence of your plasma field. We know when it goes, where it goes, and why it goes.
Alan Steinfeld
Where does it go?
Dan Winter
It goes to the place of maximum compression in your environment actually.
Alan Steinfeld
And what about reincarnation?
Dan Winter
Well, the more coherent and large your aura at death, as indicated often by lucid dreaming, the more likely you can take your plasma field coherently with you. And that’s called continuity of memory.
Alan Steinfeld
Aha. Isn’t that what we’re after, isn’t that what you’re trying to create with your work?
Dan Winter
Continuity of memory. That’s what we teach. The ultimate buck passes here is, is your aura made larger. And how do you make the aura larger? Attract charge.
Alan Steinfeld
And you do that by sacred spaces or…
Dan Winter
The Christians call it the quality of grace. The yogis call it the quality of chi. Electrical engineers call it living plasma.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, how do we increase that? As an electrical engineer.
Dan Winter
We know for example, your bones are because they’re golden ratio, and if you move at the right angle, you feel a tingle in your fingertip. You’ve attracted capacitance.
Alan Steinfeld
We need to move at the angle of the golden mean spiral. Like Tai Chi.
Dan Winter
Exactly. Wait, and the other thing is Tai Chi is exactly that same fluid movement. It’s graceful. Yeah, a calculus of curvature. It’s good for attracting girlfriends too.
Alan Steinfeld
Why is that? Are you graceful?
Dan Winter
Don’t be a jerk.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh, I see, gracefulness. It’s the electrical engineering thereof, but yeah. Well it’s also what rivers do when they meander, they create that sort of…
Dan Winter
Exactly. Yes. Which schwank. Which is the symbol of chi itself, you know.
Alan Steinfeld
Precise. The caduceus in physics is called phase conjugation. Yeah.
Alan Steinfeld
So they intuited something or they actually knew these ancient…
Dan Winter
Oh, they knew that the key to longevity was the golden mean ratio.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, my view of history here, which you do not want to hear, I assure you… My view of history is that Anton Parks was right and that the Kadistu life designers is the origin of the word Caduceus and Kabbalah actually.
Alan Steinfeld
So what’s your origin of history that we don’t want to hear?
Dan Winter
Well, let’s say it involves ET and I don’t think we should do that here.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh, we could do ET, I’m into the ET stuff.
Dan Winter
Well, you know, every indigenous people know their ancestors come from Pleiades, and Enki and Enlil’s father An, Anu sailed from Pleiades. But they were repressed at that time as a culture by the Draco, and Alpha Draconis was the pole star, the shadow of the letter L at that time. And the star there, Thuban, is the origin of our word Theba, Yahweh, etc. And that Draco is the origin of our word Uru, as in Uru, Asa, El, M, Jerusalem, a portal.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh, so Jerusalem was a portal city. So getting back to the ET stuff a little bit, to cover some of that. Because were they, did they seed us then with the ability to understand the golden mean ratio and then to discover its harmonics?
Dan Winter
You know, if there is science here, the science is only to understand enough to be a charge attractor yourself. The fact is, everybody doesn’t need to go off and study golden mean ratio, but what everybody does need to do is the hygiene to be a charge attractor.
Alan Steinfeld
Now what do you mean by hygiene?
Dan Winter
The hygiene I mean is that you need to eat live enzyme food, you need to stop eating angry DNA, red monoculture, you need to do the yoga, and you need to live in a place that has charge and live air, and out of cities electrosmog and metal buildings, or your aura will not grow. And the physics is only about introducing people to that, because once they actually have their own bliss, bliss is the final form of education after internet. Because every form of information is biologic charge, which is all available to you when you have your own source of bliss.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh, that’s interesting. Simple physics. Huh. So clean water, clean air, and also as the magnetic field of the earth shifts, I think we need to be in more physical contact, actually. Because the tantric, the male-female polarities create the magnetic field in the human aura. Create an increase in that.
Dan Winter
Well, that’s beautiful, and it relates to this idea that grounding for electricians and psychologists is only access to a fractal in which charge can be distributed, and perfect charge distribution defines the divine and the sacred. So in effect, if you’re not barefoot on some place that has charge, you are going to become electrically disconnected and schizophrenic. So if you’re walking around in thick sneakers in a city where there’s steel rebars in every piece of concrete, you damn well be sure you’re not getting any Schumann resonance, and the plasma of the earth cannot talk to you, so your ancestors aren’t going to talk to you either.
Alan Steinfeld
And you don’t regenerate your plasma field either.
Dan Winter
Exactly. Exactly. So nature has of course always been the refuge, and yoga and meditation and all those things. Yes. So do I have some prejudice here with you living in New York City?
Alan Steinfeld
No, no, it’s okay. I love nature. I’ll come visit you more often here in the south of France.
Dan Winter
You know, I only feel that whoever invented cities should apologize.
Alan Steinfeld
No, I think it’s good to come and back and go as a central location.
Dan Winter
The only city that actually works is one that looks like a pine cone and is made of those materials.
Alan Steinfeld
Really, maybe San Francisco or something.
Dan Winter
A magnetic map of Prague, Bohemia is a rose. There’s a clue. And we did lucid dream there.
Alan Steinfeld
You did, lucid dreaming in Prague.
Dan Winter
And that rose, by the way, is a meteor, the same as the Kaaba stone of the Muslims. And that meteor was the philosopher’s stone. You mean the moldavite? And that is what made Prague, Bohemia a rose. And that’s why alchemy started there.
Alan Steinfeld
Because they had access to something outside the field that added some…
Dan Winter
Not only was it a volcanic caldera that looked like, or a meteoritic caldera that looked like a grail cup, a rose, but it was seeded with a phase conjugate dielectric, the meteoritic glass, which is glass that’s been vaporized gold through it, which is the physics of alchemy, philosopher’s stone, projective powder, and the Templar red glass.
Alan Steinfeld
Did that give an extra resonance to the alchemical experiments that were going on there?
Dan Winter
John Dee and Kelley, and we could go into that story, but you don’t want to do that right now.
Alan Steinfeld
No, we could do that later. We could do that as a radio interview actually, because that’s fascinating. So the astrology also must hook in with this phase harmonics. As it hooks into the golden ratio.
Dan Winter
Once you know what gravity is, which is charge being compressed by fractality, then you can understand why a 25 cent capacitor replaces the billions that Weber wasted trying to measure gravity waves.
Alan Steinfeld
Wait, wait, wait, say that again. The 25 cent capacitor. The rust track recorder from Hodowanec and Ramsey, he could measure every time major star alignments with a capacitor. And how’d you do that?
Dan Winter
Well, it’s just like the math people who say, oh, it’s not a capacitor, it’s a Josephson junction, but we’re measuring the collective mind. It is a capacitor. The point is that it’s a charge wave propagation affecting the weak electric field that shows up in spectrum analysis that shows you if charge is compressing well. And that’s what gravity is, and that’s why capacitors measure the gravity field.
Alan Steinfeld
So if you’re going to create, back to my other question, if you’re going to create anti-gravity, you do what?
Dan Winter
Make capacitors look like a rose.
Alan Steinfeld
And that gets in the way of the gravitational pull.
Dan Winter
Well, another way to put this is, have you ever noticed that TM meditators float better under gold domes?
Alan Steinfeld
I haven’t noticed. There are lots of high resolution pictures, you might want to check. The reason they float better under gold domes is because a gold dome is a phase conjugate dielectric. I see.
Dan Winter
So the negative ion wind you measure there is the beginning of gravity. Now why would the TM meditators be able to float better there?
Alan Steinfeld
Because of the access to the…
Dan Winter
In other words, if you get more fractal electrically, then the earth underneath you, that’s called paying your debt to gravity, and you float.
Alan Steinfeld
Which is why those saints have floated.
Dan Winter
Yes.
Alan Steinfeld
So now what is the goal of your work? Now you’re creating machines, talk about the technology you’re putting out there now.
Dan Winter
Well, we were traveling and teaching and realizing the best way to sell the philosophy is to teach the science. And so we developed implosion technologies, fractalfield.com, breakthrough-technologies.com, and now theimploder.com.
Alan Steinfeld
So what does the Imploder do?
Dan Winter
Basically we take, it’s called Schauberger’s dream. We take the actual equation for hydrodynamic implosion and created a nozzle which is implosive. And so you’ve got implosive charge collapse, which is to say you gain energy during collapse. Einstein’s dream, he never got there, we did. And when you gain energy during collapse in water, you have centripetal force electrically in the water. Now if that’s now rotating as a water molecule in the correct enantiomorphic direction of spin, it then enters a z-pinch of implosive magnetics, in this case phase conjugating magnetics, and is literally a z-pinch. And so now you’ve got extreme magnetic coherence collimation, and you’ve got the water molecule entering, spinning in the correct direction to be centripetal. As a result, those water molecules, first you get magnetic coherence, which is profoundly bioactive. But second, now the water molecule is now able to stand by itself as a mono-molecule so to speak, which is just to say reduced molecular cluster size.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay, and what reason is all this happening?
Dan Winter
Solubility. And then what? Growth.
Alan Steinfeld
What do you mean?
Dan Winter
30 to 200% agricultural growth effect.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh, the imploder is used for agricultural growth. Because the water takes on a certain charge that feeds the plants.
Dan Winter
So you have reduced molecular cluster size, increased solubility. The water tastes silky, but you increase solubility, so you need less water, and the plant drinks it faster.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh I see, so we should use it on ourselves as well. Because water is more absorbable. So with the imploder you’re making water more absorbable to plants and humans and animals. So they’re getting more moisture, more nourishment.
Dan Winter
And you can understand that science if you see what the Ark of the Covenant did to the gold atom, it made it able to stand by itself monoatomic gold. And that was the solubility that made the origin of holy communion.
Alan Steinfeld
So what’s the ultimate aim of all your work? I mean of course nirvana, bliss, which might be you’ve already achieved on some level.
Dan Winter
I mean, I’m not even highly opinionated on whether this planet is savable, or can be saved, or should be saved. I’m not highly opinionated. I’m happy to smile. But I am highly opinionated on one thing, is that the actual pure principle of how it is that self-organization happens, that if cultures, if science really understood how to make centripetal force, how to make it, Schauberger’s dream implosion, that is the solution to making gravity, stabilizing atmosphere, all non-linear energy technologies, all superconductivity, is only one symmetry: implosive collapse. The cause of centripetal forces and all self-organization. And that is teachable. I’m conducting an experiment on whether that is teachable.
Alan Steinfeld
And you are teaching it.
Dan Winter
I’ve been doing it for 20 years. Having a little fun.
Alan Steinfeld
So the key to implosion is the golden mean ratio.
Dan Winter
That is true.
Alan Steinfeld
And how does that work? Let me, if you want to give us a little science behind how does the golden mean ratio create implosion?
Dan Winter
Whether it’s light or magnetism or dielectric fields, if you place it in the symmetry that is the golden mean ratio, when the stellated pentacle, stellated dodeca.
Alan Steinfeld
Stellated means what?
Dan Winter
If you take a pentagram and extend all edges straight out, or if you take a pentagonal dodecahedron, extend every edge straight out, you get golden ratio, dodeca, icosa, dodeca, icosa. The only possible 3D fractal, we call it the star mother kit, greater maze in Theosophy. That I have proven is the geometry of hydrogen. We know it’s the geometry of DNA and the universe and the earth grid. That in each case, that geometry had to be because it’s the only way centripetal forces and gravity is made.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay, so how do you put this all into a machine?
Dan Winter
Well DNA would be a good example.
Alan Steinfeld
But into an imploder like that you’re talking about.
Dan Winter
Well, we did it hydrodynamically, and we’re doing it magnetically. Another example is if you put magnets in that geometry, you actually reduce pain, called phase conjugate magnetics, because pain is fractal bleeding, and so you restore magnetic compression, that is the opposite of pain. Oh, and by the way, reduce radioactivity.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh really. Phase conjugate is the key to it all.
Dan Winter
Absolutely.
Alan Steinfeld
So if you wanted to define that in one word…
Dan Winter
You got it from me. Electrical engineer. Systems analyst with IBM. I’m telling you.
Alan Steinfeld
Phase conjugate, how would you define that?
Dan Winter
I face conjugate everything.
Alan Steinfeld
Well how would you define it?
Dan Winter
In other words, when you get married and your genes have conjugal relations, you’re finding out which memories are shareable, right? Well waves do the same thing. The only wave that comes from the center of compression is the one that’s perfectly shareable. And that perfect propagation, perfect distribution of charge, called fractal, only follows perfect compression. So perfect implosive compression always precedes charge radiance. Instructions on how to become a saint.
Alan Steinfeld
So what’s the DNA’s ratio to time? Because what’s time?
Dan Winter
Remember, mass is only rotating charge, inertia measured. Time is only the period of that rotating charge. So mass and time are the same phenomenon rotating charge. And now we know, because I wrote the new equation that proved it, Planck time times golden ratio is not only the frequencies of hydrogen, it is precisely the duration of the earth year and the Venus year. Not a coincidence! Fractality in time is the definition of coincidence.
Alan Steinfeld
But the earth year and the Venus year are different.
Dan Winter
They’re golden ratio.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh, they’re ratios to each other. So that’s not a coincidence because the solar system itself is based on golden mean.
Dan Winter
Of course. But time is based on golden mean.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh, that’s interesting.
Dan Winter
Yes, that’s how you get the Mayan calendar to work, by the way.
Alan Steinfeld
By the way. So fractality and time is…
Dan Winter
Is the only way to emerge from chaos, just like fractality in space, because it’s about rotating charge.
Alan Steinfeld
So if you look at the Mayan calendar, you’re about to take another spin around this golden spiral, aren’t we?
Dan Winter
Well, we’re going to the center of compression. At the center of compression, only shareable waves survive. It is the physics of what you call pure intention. But it’s electrical. What it means is, just like at the moment of bliss, at the moment of death, at the moment of solar max orgasm this year, every wave which is not electrically able to be compressed will be toasted. Literally.
Alan Steinfeld
So we as humans need to have compressible wave forms in the form of harmony within ourselves and others.
Dan Winter
Our plasma looks like a rose. And getting that way means smiling a lot. I mean it. In practice it means being able to handle a lot of bliss without going insane. That’s what it means. And that requires some hygiene.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay. Thank you. That’s Dan Winter. But where’d you get your ideas from?
Dan Winter
Thirty years of Kundalini.
Alan Steinfeld
Kundalini actually sparked it. So what were you before you were into all this stuff?
Dan Winter
I was born very young. Electrical engineer, University of Detroit graduate. Psychophysiology, biofeedback inventor. A systems analyst trained with IBM.
Alan Steinfeld
But what was the first hint that you could think outside the box? What was the first thought that woke you up?
Dan Winter
I first I realized that the origin of culture on Earth, which is called fear of women, started off planet. Then I studied ET. And then when I began to have bliss experiences during the sacred gymnastics at the Gurdjieff school in West Virginia, I probably would have been pronounced insane except I was adopted by Bentov and Sanella who wrote the book on medical kundalini. Isaac Bentov, Stalking the Wild Pendulum. He was my mentor, called me his guardian angel. And so instead of being insane, I became the world’s expert on the electrical engineering of Kundalini.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh. We’re going to do a whole show on that. To be continued. So okay, you discovered the electrical engineering of kundalini. You figured it out. And then what was the next thought as it related to this golden mean ratio?
Dan Winter
The experience of kundalini is basically like trying to live inside a lightning bolt. If you think an unshareable thought, you get toasted quick.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, what was happening to you when you were experiencing kundalini?
Dan Winter
Well, it feels like a red hot poker is shoving up your tailbone, and it’s better than orgasm. And then you got this red hot burning flame in the top of your head that you can’t kick out. And it’s like a long-term headache. And even Krishnamurti prayed to get rid of his kundalini.
Alan Steinfeld
But what initiated that for you?
Dan Winter
Well, double scorpio, a virgin, sacred gymnastics, looking to hell too many lifetimes as a monk, you know, we could go into that.
Alan Steinfeld
And boom, it just exploded out of the top of your head, huh? Waiting for that, right?
Dan Winter
And so I, you know, it evolved, and I’ve seen it steer the weather. It actually steers, if you focus the plasma of Kundalini, it steers a tornado, literally. You know, I mean it makes storms the size of continents, and I know how rolling thunder made rain. I mean…
Alan Steinfeld
So the Kundalini then opened up new neural pathways so you could…
Dan Winter
Of course. Extremely so. Yes.
Alan Steinfeld
And then what was the first thought or the first phase of this branching out into the golden mean?
Dan Winter
Actually, there’s a lady here that’s involved with Theosophy. And I was building this thing from Theosophy called the Greater Maze, which I now call the Star Mother Kit. So there I am building dodeca, icosa, stellations. And I realized it’s a wave function.
Alan Steinfeld
How did you understand form as a wave function?
Dan Winter
In my view, geometry is only important if it predicts what a wave will do.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, if you have these angles, how does that then translate into waves?
Dan Winter
Wavelength A and wavelength B meet. They have kids. It’s called heterodyning. As they heterodyne, they keep interfering infinitely. If it’s a cube, that interference is perfectly destructive.
Alan Steinfeld
Destructive. Perfectly destructive for waveform. Which is perfect for isolating charge, and horrible for distributing charge. Remember that when you build your house.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay, so what should the house be?
Dan Winter
The parts of your house where you want secrets, tetra, octa, cube. The parts of your house where you want to be shareable, pent, dodeca, golden ratio.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay. So you understood that angles created charge. Now how did you get that? I think that’s really key to your whole teaching. How do angles create waves or charge or…?
Dan Winter
Well, look at Feng Shui. Feng Shui says a right angle is evil. Now I know why in physics, because the capacitance propagating from a right angle creates destructive wave interference.
Alan Steinfeld
Wait, one second. Okay, we have a right angle, 90 degrees. Now what does that do?
Dan Winter
The waves are adding and multiplying.
Alan Steinfeld
How do we get waves from angles?
Dan Winter
Physics says there is nothing but waves, and I agree.
Alan Steinfeld
But we have a 90 degree angle.
Dan Winter
And everything that made that 90 degree angle is matter, and matter is called a wave. It’s a wave of charge. When the wave rotates and stores that inertia, that’s called mass. It’s a wave.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay, so we have a wave going one way, hitting another wave going at 90 degrees.
Dan Winter
Right. And because it’s a cube, it’s square, then they interfere at powers of two. And if waves interfere at powers of two, that is the precise way for maximum destructive wave interference.
Alan Steinfeld
Waves interfere at the powers of two because…
Dan Winter
It’s like an astrologer saying a T-square is bad news. Same thing. T-square is bad news.
Alan Steinfeld
Because squares are bad news because of the way… Destructive wave interference.
Dan Winter
And Feng Shui says it’s bad news. And now physics knows why.
Alan Steinfeld
So squares are bad news, they create destructive energy. For capacitance. And that means your plasma don’t like it. Okay, I get it. So we should not live in a square house. Square houses are bad news pretty much. Especially a metal square house. That’s something else. Okay, so I think I get that. Good. So 90 degree angles create a destructive wave pattern. That’s right. A constructive wave pattern would be… 72 degrees. Pent, repent and be saved, my son.
Alan Steinfeld
What about 51 degrees as in a pyramid?
Dan Winter
Well, that’s where you flatten an octa to make the height golden ratio. And that makes a gravity diode. And that’s another story, and I don’t think you’re ready for that.
Alan Steinfeld
I’d love to get into that at some point. Okay, so you discovered that angles create waves… destructive.
Dan Winter
Yeah, it’s like if you’re clairvoyant, you’d see the capacitance of all structures like a shadow. The weak electric field is a capacitive field, it’s what Steiner called etheric formative force. It is actually a weak capacitive field. It’s what you measure with GDV clinical aura diagnosis. It’s a weak capacitive field, it’s a dielectric field.
Alan Steinfeld
A weak capacitive field. So to make, we’re here to make strong capacitor fields.
Dan Winter
Your plasma, your aura, yes.
Alan Steinfeld
And we do that by constructive interference.
Dan Winter
And how do we create that? Avoid destructive interference. That means your house needs to look like a pine cone and be made of those materials. So now you know why the house needs to avoid the right angles and the cubes, and needs the pent and the curved etc, to be a charge container. The second thing is the materials choices need to also reflect allowing charge to breathe. So the simple experiment, teach your biology teacher this, tell them they need to move out of their university because it’s made of metal. So you put a seed in a metal cup, steel or aluminum cup, watch it die. Show that to your biology teacher, and tell them to move out of their building. And you put the same seed in a wooden or a stone cup, and it grows. Show that to your biology teacher and tell him, change the material of your building. And the physics is… I’ll just explain quickly. But the physics is that in the steel and aluminum cup, you have harmonic exclusiveness capacitively, only a couple harmonics, isolated charge, and that’s called death. In the wood or stone cup, natural material, every molecule is joined a fractal and that’s called life. The capacitance is harmonic inclusive, fractal and phase conjugate, and that’s why the seed grows. And that is why the bioactive electric field of Stonehenge makes a seed grow, and unless you understand that, you cannot be an architect.
Alan Steinfeld
Interesting. Isn’t that amazing? That I think is fascinating. I want to get back to your own evolution just a little bit if you don’t mind. So the first phase of your own understanding of this wave harmonics was understanding 90 degree angles created a destructive harmonics.
Dan Winter
You just interfere a large number of waves at powers of two, the octave. For example, if you put octaves in your headphones here in binaural beat, you create dissociation in brain waves. Where if you put golden ratio, you create transcendence.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay, so the next… then, so you discovered that. And then what happened in your development?
Dan Winter
I documented it. I wrote a book with Ed Wilson.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay, and then where did you go from there?
Dan Winter
Well, I started looking at physics, and I discovered my new equation for hydrogen, and I lectured at the First International Unified Field Physics Conference in Budapest with Elizabeth Rauscher, Nassim Haramein, and Richard Amoroso. And I was the first to announce golden ratio fractality is the cause of gravity, and then Nassim subsequently helped me prove it by proving golden ratio is the cause of black holes.
Alan Steinfeld
But in your own evolution, starting working with Bentov, where you discovered these early… how did you progress to where you are? What was the next phase of your development? Because that came later on with Nassim and Elizabeth Rauscher.
Dan Winter
Well, you know, I was an electrical engineer, and I ran an electric motor business in Western New York, developed a line of phase converters we marketed nationally. And at that time I was lecturing regularly to the electrical inspectors on electrical aspects of stray ground currents for agriculture. And we then learned why a cow won’t touch the water and the farm dies on the day they connect the ground rod to the cable TV, and the farm is toast, and we figured out exactly why. Because if you send the electrons back to the power company through the earth instead of through a wire, the earth gets sick. Stray ground currents, fractality is ground. So when you affect that power distribution fractality, you’re affecting the life of all biology. That cow is just a canary in the cave.
Alan Steinfeld
Well what I’m getting to is that you’ve been such a contributor to the field of sacred geometry for 20 years. Now you understood that first the right angles weren’t good. Now when did you get into the understanding of sacred geometry and harmonics? How did that come about?
Dan Winter
Well, you know I was a church organist and choir director when I was in the fourth grade. My mother was a music teacher. And I actually taught music theory in the Gurdjieff school, and I was the musician for the Gurdjieff gymnastics. So I had a little experience.
Alan Steinfeld
But how did sacred geometry come to you?
Dan Winter
Sacred geometry actually… in a practical sense, I was living with the Gurdjieff community in a windfall, in Marshfield, Massachusetts, called Windfall. And I’m walking in the local bookstore, and Plummer’s book, The Mathematics of the Cosmic Mind, fell on my head. That’s pretty good. That was… But then I just realized that basically this is the only way chemistry should be taught. Wave mechanics. That children could actually visualize creation accurately if chemistry was simply taught as constructive wave interference. And that they knew that the electron shells and the nucleus are simply Platonic solids, and it’s true. It’s so beautiful.
Alan Steinfeld
So that was your big discovery?
Dan Winter
Well, again, I wouldn’t call any of these my discovery. I would just say I had a revelation that it was the way to go.
Alan Steinfeld
What’s, is God just the ultimate sacred geometric equation?
Dan Winter
No, no. It’s very clear that mitogenic radiation, which is the frequencies living cells radiate, is the physics of phase conjugation. Therefore, phase conjugation of DNA as a dielectric, so we know how you talk to ancestors. Actually Korotkov actually measured, you will follow the Kogi to where they phone their ancestors and measure the fractality of the air. We know how the collective unconscious, the physics of the communion of saints works. It’s called a phase conjugate dielectric. The paper is by Alice and Barium Titanate Land in the electrical engineering literature. So the Hopi were very mad when they put the metal pipes in the Old Oraibi, the burial ground of their ancestors. It’s physics. Your ancestors’ memory is charge circulation. Literally.
Alan Steinfeld
So this bit about God is crap. In fact is, the extent to which the local electric field can be self-organizing, the collective unconscious can store its library of survival memory. And yes, that electric field is loving, but no, it’s physics. It’s beautiful physics, and it’s loving physics, but it’s physics. Okay, now you talked about ETs. Now ETs must have an advanced form of physics because they were able to do things we can’t do. So what is it that they know?
Dan Winter
You’re getting into a can of worms here.
Alan Steinfeld
We don’t have to go too far into the ET stuff, but I’m fascinated because here we are on a beautiful day outdoors in the sacred mountains of the Pyrenees…
Dan Winter
Well, the short view was that the lineage of angelics, you might call Seraphim, Ophanum, Adonai, Valnapa, a small part of the family had a genetic disaster called Nephilim, whereby their DNA stopped imploding. Shortly after, on Alpha Draconis, the hermaphroditic lineage of the Draco became sexual. And that at that time they evolved two separate languages among the Draco families, which later was called Aboriginal Australia and the caste system in India. Comes straight from Draco. And so this precipitated, after millions of years, or at least hundreds of thousands, a point where only cloning was legal in their culture. And they lost what you call soul, what we now know is charge implosion in DNA. We’re talking about the Greys as well. The Greys are just a chopped up, hacked up by the Draco on Reticuli. They’re what we’re going to be if we keep on this track.
Alan Steinfeld
So we need to do something else.
Dan Winter
Look at the way Dolly the sheep died, you get the picture. It’s ugly.
Alan Steinfeld
No, no. How did Dolly the sheep die?
Dan Winter
It’s a horrible, painful, disgusting death. Because they didn’t have any chi, they didn’t have any life force. And the reason was they don’t even realize the physics of what orgasm does to meiosis and mitosis.
Alan Steinfeld
What does orgasm do?
Dan Winter
It’s a plasma attractor. It’s critical. If somebody just counted the statistics on autism versus artificial insemination, they’d get a little clue.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh, this is, this is the problem now.
Dan Winter
So, you know, we need to understand the physics of what soul is. It’s these dumb biologists who don’t even know that DNA has an electric field, much less that’s the only way you get memory through death, calling it junk DNA when in fact it’s the spacing between codons that allows the braid to be recursive to allow it to implode. And that’s called soul. So soul, life, astral bliss, harmonics are all here to charge attraction, to evolve human destiny, to our true sense of oneness with consciousness.
Alan Steinfeld
And we can go to the ET story about that, but we don’t need to, it can be taught as science and should be. Well, the ETs only know science.
Dan Winter
If you want the ET story, read Anton Parks, zeitlin.net, short history, he looked like a frog.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay, now the last question I really have is, where do you want your work to go? Is there anything more to discover for you?
Dan Winter
We’re having so much fun. I’m having so much fun I can barely stand it. We have now figured out how we’re going to burn water, my new equation is working for hydrogen. Hydrolysis, explosive, and by the way that’s the ultimate solution to desalination. And we already have superconductive battery charging working from phase conjugate dielectrics. And the imploder just went into a whole new generation, which is super powerful. Not only it has 30 to 200% agricultural effect, total elimination of buildup in pipes, we’re talking like half the amount of soap needed for washing.
Alan Steinfeld
So what does the future look like with all these things?
Dan Winter
It means that culture can learn how to emerge from chaos in general. And I’m talking the mathematics to predict the stock market, which by the way is working. I’m talking the mathematics to predict how you rearrange the magnetic lines to hold the atmosphere. How to build a capacitor to eliminate radioactivity. We got five different ways and they work. I’m gonna have to study with you, I’m gonna have to move in and just… It’s fun.
Alan Steinfeld
But what does the future look like once all this comes online?
Dan Winter
Well, the future looks like in the next year or two more than half the earth is toast.
Alan Steinfeld
No, no, but after that, let’s say we get all the equations, all in place in a big institutional sort of way, how can we live as humans?
Dan Winter
It means that the village of the future is going to look like a rose, it’s going to be all made of natural materials, there’ll be almost no electrosmog, and everyone will be involved in yoga and having bliss experiences because that’ll be the final form of education actually. And most of them will be learning to lucid dream, and many will have seen through the heart of the sun, like it’s an eyeball.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay, now one last thing, the heart of the sun, talk about that physics.
Dan Winter
We know lots of Essenes, saints, and shamans who have seen through the eye of the sun. We know it’s cool in there.
Alan Steinfeld
What does that mean, the eye of the sun?
Dan Winter
Leadbeater, Besant, and Babbitt saw the heart of the sun, it’s called the Anu. It’s the same five spun, seven spun slip knot which is at the heart of hydrogen and the DNA braid and the human heart muscle.
Alan Steinfeld
Did they look at the sun and see something?
Dan Winter
Oh yeah, sure. Clairvoyance, you know. And so the heart of the sun is in fact not hot, it’s cool and inviting and implosive, as we now know hydrogen is, pure fusion is dodeca stellation golden ratio. And it’s the only living plasma body with the inertial escape velocity to get out of here. It means that it isn’t escapist to go through the center of the sun with your plasma, it’s the only way to graduate from kindergarten.
Alan Steinfeld
You mean all stars, not just our sun.
Dan Winter
Any star that’s growing up.
Alan Steinfeld
I see. Is it because there’s a black hole in the center of the star?
Dan Winter
Well you can think of it as a white hole, it’s centripetal. The important thing to know is the sun needs something we make, and that is centripetal force.
Alan Steinfeld
The sun needs something humans make? Absolutely. Which is what?
Dan Winter
The sun wouldn’t have gone to all this trouble to cook up DNA, it was a pain in the ass. What does the sun need that we got? Well, here’s a clue. Twelve different occasions when more than a million children sang the same song at the same moment, the number of solar flares went dramatically down. Dramatically. So when a million people focus on one thing, the sun goes ahhh. The physics is centripetal force.
Alan Steinfeld
You think the sun needs that?
Dan Winter
Somehow I’m getting the feeling it’s connected to what they were doing in the towers of Gerona and Rennes-le-Château, that harmonics, and Canigou being the middle of the sun. That’s right. You need the plasma compression becomes acceleration. So when you die, if you do it well, in a full service city of the dead, the only way out is through the heart of the sun. It’s true.
Alan Steinfeld
So you take your astral lucid mind and you go right to the heart of the sun and pass to the other side.
Dan Winter
When you lucid dream you gradually learn to take more organs of perception with you as your aura becomes more electrically coherent, your Ka. And as you do that and evolve, your plasma eventually can withstand the compression of the solar heart. And then it can be accelerated, and then stars grow up.
Alan Steinfeld
Stars grow up. We are helping the star grow up.
Dan Winter
Yeah, so when a little girl says, mommy, am I going to grow up and become a star? If mommy’s an astrophysicist, she says, yes.
Alan Steinfeld
That’s funny. It’s true. Well, you know, I’m gonna have to look at this interview and study it. And I’m sure we could talk for hours more, because you have hours on your website there. What is that website again? Golden mean ratio of course.
Dan Winter
goldenmean.info
Alan Steinfeld
goldenmean.info. Thank you.
Dan Winter
Thank you very much.
Alan Steinfeld
Thanks, Dan. Alan Steinfeld from the heart of the Pyrenees at the base of Mount Canigou, which is of course a pine cone. Thanks for watching. See you next time.