New Realities recorded on June 17, 2007
Summary
Alan Steinfeld interviews healer and teacher Doreen Bray on his show ‘New Realities’. They discuss the evolution of human consciousness, the importance of acknowledging and moving through pain to reach higher spiritual frequencies, and the physical manifestations of spiritual growth. Bray emphasizes the significance of cellular healing, the power of forgiveness, and the necessity of embracing the physical body as a manifestation of spirit. She also leads a guided meditation designed to release tension and ground energy to the Earth.
Transcript
Alan Steinfeld
Welcome to New Realities. My name is Alan Steinfeld, and New Realities is dedicated to exploring evolving human potentials in an evolving world. This series explores the idea of how to become more conscious beings. I present programs that invite the listener to look at their automatic behaviors and take free reign of their body, mind, and spirit, so that we can hope to inhabit a greater and better world. This program is constantly on the lookout for new and different perspectives in achieving a greater, more peaceful reality for the planet. It’s about embracing a synthesis of rational understanding with mystical awareness. That is from my website, newrealities.tv. I’m Alan Steinfeld, and each week I do a program here on BBSRadio.com that I find inspiring. I look for people that are giving us the next piece in our understanding of evolution. I’ve done a bunch of programs in the last few weeks about higher intelligences, more conscious sexuality, evolving mind potential. And this week I have a very interesting and exciting guest who is really taking us to the next level of our conscious evolutionary understanding of who we are as spiritual beings. Her name is Doreen Bray, and I’ve just met her recently, but she is an inspiration in understanding where she comes from, as far as tapping in and making the higher dimensions really tangible in a way. So Doreen, are you there?
Doreen Bray
Yes, good evening, Alan.
Alan Steinfeld
Was that a good introduction? How would you introduce yourself?
Doreen Bray
I think you said it all. Thank you.
Alan Steinfeld
No, what I am interested in about your work is how you’ve been given a gift since you were a child in a sense to evolve, to help open up people to a greater understanding of reality. You’ve had to work through a lot of your own lessons in order to bring people to that next level. But is it always necessary that we work through those difficulties in order to have this next level available? Do you know what I’m asking you?
Doreen Bray
I have found through my own practice and working with people since I was young that people seem to need to go through a cocoon stage, where they sit with and move through all of their horrors, their pain, their suffering, and come to a place of peace. And once that has happened, it’s like we crack open a shell and move into a higher form of expression. But even that higher form of expression may be another realm to explore, and then we burst through that. So I believe it’s like a flower that constantly opens its petals to expose more and more and more of oneself.
Alan Steinfeld
But that painful part is that seems like it’s a necessary propellant along the way, is it? I mean, is it or is it just for the really stubborn and difficult? Are we all that? Are we all basically in the same process? I guess I’m asking…
Doreen Bray
I don’t think we’re in the same process. I think that each person has their own things to deal with, depending on what karma you came in with, depending on what you’ve done in your past lives, who you’ve evolved into, what level you’re at. So your challenges will be different than your neighbor’s challenges. But also, the choices you make may assist you to evolve faster than maybe your neighbor because of his choices.
Alan Steinfeld
Right. I mean, my question always comes down to are there right choices? Are there choices that make the path or the way more joyful? And the kind of old question is if you don’t take I would say the right choices things become more difficult until we finally see that, like the alcoholic trying to having to hit bottom before they’re willing to acknowledge they’re an alcoholic. I mean, in a sense, we’re all alcoholics that are just stubbornly attached to our old ego ways of doing things.
Doreen Bray
Correct. So what you’re asking is if we really need to go through all the pain and suffering to…
Alan Steinfeld
Yes, that’s what I’m asking.
Doreen Bray
I don’t think so. I don’t think so. But the thing is for thousands, hundreds of thousands of years that’s what the species have believed, and so we live out the belief systems of our parents, of our grandparents, of our great grandparents, and we follow in those steps even though we want to break through it. So a lot of the ways that we look at reality and view our own reality is through their paradigm, not our own. Once we grasp that we are free from all of that old belief system, that all of the bondage is only our own, we can just step into the next higher frequency. It’s all about our own personal acceptance of self and others.
Alan Steinfeld
And I also think it’s a way of learning from other people’s experiences.
Doreen Bray
Totally, you may need to.
Alan Steinfeld
And I think that’s the benefit of film being such a spiritual art. I mean, we can be practically in someone’s head, experiencing their life and their pain and their love and their loss and their suffering, and we don’t actually have to experience it, and we can make a huge amount of our own spiritual evolutions just by going to a good movie, you know?
Doreen Bray
You’re right. You’re right. Because the cells in your body believe that you are truly experiencing it. The cells believe it because you are confirming it within yourself as you’re viewing it, you are feeling all the sensations that those people are going through. So the cells make the chemistry and they create the background for your healing to take place in.
Alan Steinfeld
It’s amazing. And there’s also these things called mirror neurons. Have you heard about mirror neurons?
Doreen Bray
Not yet.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh, you should hear about them because they’re actually mechanisms in our brain that match other people’s feelings. So if I look at you, you look feeling sad, there is going to be a trigger mirror neuron that will make me feel how you’re feeling. This is a neurological fact. It’s an amazing discovery and it explains so much of who we are as humans. Actually, chimpanzees, they originally discovered it in primates that they had mirror neurons.
Doreen Bray
That’s fascinating because we’ve always known that the mirror world exists. Whatever you see is what you truly are, it’s presented to you in that way. So it’s lovely that science is now step by step with what we’ve always believed to be true.
Alan Steinfeld
Right. So the next question then is if we then can watch a good movie or I mean, not I mean, or even other people in our lives that have gone through certain things, and we’ve then learned those lessons on a soul level, would you say? Because I mean, my understanding and what I’ve been taught about spiritual truths and philosophy is that we are here to experience all things in the human dimension. We’re here to feel all feelings and experience the human realm in its totality. That’s the only way we ever actually transcend it is by feeling it. Would you agree with that?
Doreen Bray
I totally agree.
Alan Steinfeld
So the idea of this amazing acceleration that’s happening is to feel as much and embrace the feelings and own those feelings and then they become wisdom once they’re owned, once they’re felt.
Doreen Bray
Once you identify it within yourself and ask yourself, why am I feeling this? What does it relate to? How can what I’m feeling transform me? How can it empower me? Those questions, answered…
Alan Steinfeld
Right. But not only…
Doreen Bray
Sorry.
Alan Steinfeld
Right. But no, what I was going to say is not only just asking those questions but just allowing the feelings to resonate in you as deep as they can go on a cellular vibration shift you. Do you know what I’m saying?
Doreen Bray
Oh yes, and they do, but still, the basis behind it is the mind, and the mind needs to move into agreement with what the cells are experiencing.
Alan Steinfeld
Well I think that once the cells feel that and they’re allowed to feel it on the depth of their soul, then they own that experience and then they never have, you never have to have that experience again. Once you get that. Do you know what I mean?
Doreen Bray
Yes, I agree, as long as you choose to not experience it again. What happens with a lot of people is that they believe that they will experience it differently, even though they may go through the same thing. It’s the challenge. So it’s like the child whose father says, ‘Don’t do that, I know what will happen, please don’t do it,’ and the child says, ‘Well, that happened to you, it won’t happen to me.’
Alan Steinfeld
Well then that becomes then the addiction of human behavior, to think that if you’re going to not experience the same feeling, but you do, we end up, we then end up addicted to our, some people say the chemical reactions that happen due to emotion, this is the Candace Pert model, the molecules of emotion, we end up then thinking we’re going to maybe have a different experience but we’re really indulging those feelings that keep us stuck in the addictive pattern. So then how do you suggest to get out of that pattern all together? How do we first evenly…
Doreen Bray
First recognition.
Alan Steinfeld
First recognition that you’re in a pattern.
Doreen Bray
Well how do you even, if you’re doing something, how do you even recognize that you’re doing, it’s like how does a fish know it’s in water? That’s how deep our habitual patterns are.
Doreen Bray
If something you’re doing causes pain or suffering to yourself or others, we must wake up to understand that pain and suffering doesn’t need to be part of our experience and we can transcend that.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay. So we need to look at why am I in pain? Why am I creating pain in others?
Doreen Bray
Okay, that’s already a sort of a more evolved consciousness than someone who just maybe would go around causing pain, not willingly or being self-destructive, but there’s the level below that where people don’t even realize that their actions are affecting themselves and others, you know? That’s because they’re in pain, they create pain in others.
Alan Steinfeld
Right. So how do you talk to that person? How do they start to resonate or how does one in, like say, a healing position, allow that reflection to be seen, so that person can then start to have an awareness. I mean I guess I’m talking about the base level of healing, in a sense. How do we, how do you as a healer bring a level of awareness to people who are totally unaware?
Doreen Bray
The first place we have to start is by bringing peace into the person. Only by first feeling peace can we then see what else there is. If I’ve never been in peace, I can’t recognize anger or pain, because like the fish in the water, I’m it. But if we can move into something much deeper, which is a much higher frequency also, then we are able, like the eagle, to look over our life from a new perspective. Then we can change it, because once you see it, then you have the power to change it. If you can’t see it, you can’t change it.
Alan Steinfeld
So once you get, or you help people get a little bit of this break or distance from the pain of their lives, sort of just to have a glimpse that something else is possible, and then they go back into that feeling, and then they realize that they’re feeling it.
Doreen Bray
Right, and then they say, ‘That’s not what I want.’ Then they can discern.
Alan Steinfeld
Right. Right. Well that’s that’s a big, okay, and then there’s levels and levels and levels of that.
Doreen Bray
Of course. I do believe that peace is one of the most important elements to bring in, whether it be through meditation, chanting, dancing, something that brings the person passion can bring them into peace.
Alan Steinfeld
Right, but they, if, I mean yeah, I mean I think you said it, but I’m just saying, if they have never even, if they don’t even know what that, if they’re so much in denial and pain and addiction, how do they even have that moment of peace to realize that there is peace? How do they have that?
Doreen Bray
Yeah, first they have to come up, even if it’s only for a few minutes, up out of the pain, out of the addiction, just to view it, to open their eyes, just to catch a few moments.
Alan Steinfeld
And how do you help, and how do you help people do that? Is there anything that…
Doreen Bray
Meditation is a very powerful tool as long as they can stay focused long enough.
Alan Steinfeld
So you help people drop into something. So they start to, so in a sense you’re saying dropping into an awareness of feeling whatever they’re feeling.
Doreen Bray
Definitely. We need to move closer to our feeling body, not farther away from it. Usually, all of the addictions are hiding the pain that the person feels inside. They don’t want to feel the pain, but in order to heal it, we have to move toward it, not away from it.
Alan Steinfeld
So that’s that is the hardest part because they’ve spent their whole lives moving from it, and you’re saying you have to move towards it, move towards the thing that you think will annihilate you. I mean, in a sense, right?
Doreen Bray
Right, so we walk into the unknown, into areas that we really haven’t explored, we’ve constantly escaped it since maybe the time of childhood.
Alan Steinfeld
Right. So I mean you did that in your life. I mean from what I know of you, it seems like how were you able to turn towards the the thing that was most frightening?
Doreen Bray
Like many, I first chose addictions to hide the pain. But then I realized I understood, because I was always much deeper connected, and perhaps that’s been my savior, but I understood that I could not continue, because that would be self-destructive. So first the person has to say, ‘This is not what I want.’ And I think that this is priority. I chose life. And once I chose life, then I had to look at what was taking life from me. So then I realized it was my childhood, and the things that brought me the greatest suffering and pain. So then I had to look at that and say, ‘What did I learn through that?’ Not what pain did I suffer, because the person knows that, but what did I actually learn from it? Like, how did it empower me? Because there’s always something there, there’s treasures within it if we can just find it.
Alan Steinfeld
Right, so someone who’s been really sad or angry, I have this friend who’s really, really angry and is suffering from that. I mean, he has to sort of say what did I learn from this reactive expression? How did it serve them in a way, but also they have to acknowledge what you said earlier is they have to acknowledge what happened, and say that, well maybe a disservice was done because some people will never say that they’re beyond it, but if you just allow it, then something is acknowledged there.
Doreen Bray
Yes, to really confirm that what happened, happened. And it may be horrific, it’s not to say that it wasn’t, but it’s only to say what was, was, and it may be good, it may be bad, it may have paralyzed you in fear, in anger, in suffering. It was what it was, and who are you now?
Alan Steinfeld
Right.
Doreen Bray
What have you become? What have you birthed out of the experience? And if you use it as a foundation instead of a crutch, then you can stand upon it to birth yourself anew.
Alan Steinfeld
Right. Okay, that’s a good foundation. So let’s switch gears just a little bit and let’s talk about, because I think that’s a really nice overview of the emotional body and what we’re here to do. But on another level, let’s talk about the new birth that is happening planetarily. What we’re moving into as a collective race, and you know, we were just at this gathering today here in New York where many people came together all with the idea of becoming more conscious in a community way and coming together to build something new. So from your perspective, I want to, I’m just curious to know what you see as we move into a new time. And is it truly a new time? And what does it look like? And where are we going?
Doreen Bray
Well, the conscious evolution of the species is phenomenal, and I really say that wholeheartedly. 30 years ago, you wouldn’t hear this kind of talk on the radio, in the news, in magazines. We are opening up in so many different levels. We are truly evolving consciously as a species.
Alan Steinfeld
So what does that actually mean and look like?
Doreen Bray
That means that people are choosing differently than their parents did, than their great grandparents did. Than they have in other lives. They are choosing to birth themselves in a whole new way, even though it may be scary, even though they may not know what they’re stepping into, they’re stepping forward.
Alan Steinfeld
So give some specifics because I think the more specific you are, the more it becomes tangible. So how, in what specifics would people be birthing themselves anew?
Doreen Bray
I see people finally moving toward acknowledgment that the cells of their body are part of their journey. They are beginning to honor the cells themselves and their cells. And in that alignment, they are creating a new platform and a new species, in a way. We have either searched for Spirit, or we’ve been totally physical, denying Spirit.
Alan Steinfeld
Right.
Doreen Bray
But never before have we tried to bring the two together, bringing consciousness into the cells, so the cells themselves can begin to spin at higher frequencies and begin to unlock the DNA codes that have been forever closed or seemingly forever closed off to us.
Alan Steinfeld
So what’s one way people can actually, because I totally agree with you, it’s time for us to embrace our physical bodies as actual manifestations of our spirit. I mean, they actually are spirit, frozen spirit or however you want to say it, but it’s something about the body that totally needs to be acknowledged as, as not just a vehicle, because that is such a, an old world view, you know? I think that view doesn’t work. I think that view, I mean not to put anything down, but in India they have that view that it’s just the vehicle and why not, it doesn’t matter, you can pollute the world and throw garbage on the ground and do all that. I mean I’m exaggerating a little bit, but it’s like there is that view that the that it’s just a vehicle for Spirit. And I think what you’re saying is something different, right?
Doreen Bray
Yes, I am. I what I’m saying is that okay, let me put this way. The spirit is spirit. It is already evolved. It doesn’t need to come here to evolve. Let’s face it. Okay, what part of you wishes to evolve? What part in all humans wish to evolve? It’s the cellular structure. The cells, we know scientifically, are only functioning on one third of the DNA. But there’s, that means there’s two thirds that we haven’t unlocked yet. For that DNA to unlock, for us to begin to become more, that’s the best way I can verbalize it. What is necessary is an integration with all that we are, into and an alignment with the cells of the body.
Alan Steinfeld
So, and this union then will bring us into higher frequencies. So what do you suggest? How do you, how do you see that people, what can we do, is there a meditation, is there a focus, is there, what do we need to do to bring that aware, or just the awareness itself you’re saying? Or what is it?
Doreen Bray
Just, like if a person can say, ‘Okay, my cells are important. Can I begin to feel them?’
Alan Steinfeld
Ah.
Doreen Bray
When when we’ve been in denial all our lives, the first thing we’re probably going to feel is pain. All the times we have, we have eaten incorrectly, all the times we have abused ourselves physically, will come.
Alan Steinfeld
Or judged ourselves, judged our bodies.
Doreen Bray
Yes! All of those things!
Alan Steinfeld
Yeah.
Doreen Bray
Yes. Because realize that the cells of the body represent all of your thoughts. So they only are what you’re thinking. They are as great as you think they are or as lowly as you think they are, because their job is to satisfy you and give you everything that you need to manifest your calling.
Alan Steinfeld
Right.
Doreen Bray
So the cells make all of the chemicals, the neuropeptides are made by the brain, all the cells in the body make the neuropeptides in response, exactly the same chemicals are created everywhere. And now these chemical messengers are creating the body in your image. The mind’s image.
Alan Steinfeld
So the body’s a complete projection of attitudes and thoughts.
Doreen Bray
Totally.
Alan Steinfeld
So then the heal.
Doreen Bray
Everything we think. Yes.
Alan Steinfeld
They’re just totally at our, their service.
Doreen Bray
Completely.
Alan Steinfeld
I mean it’s, it’s amazing. It’s amazing the magical vehicle that we inhabit, isn’t it?
Doreen Bray
It’s fascinating and extraordinary and that’s where the magic and the sacredness is.
Alan Steinfeld
Yes, it is the sacredness of the body that is is is spirit, you know? I think…
Doreen Bray
Yes, when we think about it, if any person ever levitated or did any of these miraculous things on Earth, great healings, and so on and so forth, it was through their physical manifestation that these things occurred. So it was through the cells of the body, the cells need to hold this light, that means the cells need to be strong, healthy. They need to be able to transmit…
Alan Steinfeld
Right, cells need to be able to transmit. So then is is if, as we come more, as we bring more spirit or acknowledgement of the spirit into the body, well first of all, is the planet itself you feel then increasing its vibration in order for us to house within our physical Earth body more spirit?
Doreen Bray
Yes. There’s more and more light coming in all the time. This this can be chaotic for some whose minds are in turbulence already, or it can be like being inside the Great Pyramid in the King’s chamber where it’s opening you up like a lotus flower, stretching your being toward the light. We choose which…
Alan Steinfeld
Yes. We choose which way to go. But so the Earth itself people have said is a conscious being. Would you agree…
Doreen Bray
Yes, it is. Mother Earth, it is Mother Earth.
Alan Steinfeld
It’s a being, you consider it a…
Doreen Bray
It is, yes.
Alan Steinfeld
And does it talk to you? Does it, what does it say to you?
Doreen Bray
Not saying things like you speak and the vocabulary you do, but it comes like a spark, a light inside of me in the core of my being that then explodes, and within it all the stories are revealed, like a movie, but the movie is all happening in a second, and everything is known within that moment.
Alan Steinfeld
Uh-huh. So what kind of messages? What kind of things have you gotten from the earth?
Doreen Bray
I’ve well, first of all, I’ve spent three days and three nights crying. Why? In compassion for all of Earth creatures, for all of the people, all the suffering, all the bloodshed, all the changes. Even the leaves that are changing in the fall and dropping on the ground, I cried for. So first I moved through compassion, which I think is a necessary tool to move into the heart. Our species has been too long in the head.
Alan Steinfeld
But is that a human projection onto nature, because it seems like the leaves know they’re gonna fall and it’s like they don’t see it as, I don’t think the leaves necessarily see it as the way we might project our emotions on those leaves. I mean…
Doreen Bray
You’re right, it is a transformation and a more metamorphosis. But there’s no mourning on that part of the tree or the leaves? The tree knows in its own wisdom all the changes it’s going through. But the leaf has died, and the leaf itself feels its own death.
Alan Steinfeld
Uh-huh. Uh-huh. But it will be reborn again.
Doreen Bray
Not that leaf that’s on the ground, maybe in many different ways as microorganisms dissolve it as the earthworms use it, as it becomes bird and insect and fungus and…
Alan Steinfeld
Right. So life continues…
Doreen Bray
All of those other creations, so its biology in a sense, only shares then its life force with all other life forces, and it sees through the eyes of a bird or a worm. So in that sense, yes, it is eternal.
Alan Steinfeld
Right. Because you’re saying in a sense all things are conscious, all things have that one consciousness that inhabits everything.
Doreen Bray
Yes.
Alan Steinfeld
So getting back to this idea of our bodies and then the Earth, that the Earth then is becoming, greater in its vibration, how is that then affecting our physical bodies and and what can we do to be more in harmony with that increase?
Doreen Bray
Yes, our physical bodies are changing, you see it in the babies born today. Their skulls are larger, they seem to be built stronger to ground these increasing frequencies, but people who were born 30, 40, 50, 60 years ago need to go through the metamorphosis of the structure changing. So even though we have not really seen the species metamorphosize before, we now are seeing some evidence of these changes. One is where the skull is beginning to change its formation, becoming a little bit more rounder or square, and softer on top. Yes, the legs, especially the left one around the ankle, becoming, either an extra bone there which joins to the ankle bone or just a lot larger, stronger because we ground more with the left than the right. Lower back yes.
Alan Steinfeld
We do? We ground to the Earth energies more with our left because that’s the way we receive energies into our body, with the left side…
Doreen Bray
That’s the way we bring in universal energy and ground it, like a lightning rod. So the left leg itself is actually developing in different ways? Totally, as a matter of fact, it’s been photographed that in some people, the left leg is a lot larger, it almost looks like its ballooned. But yet these people have undergone medical examination and there’s nothing wrong with them. They’re not retaining water. There’s nothing wrong with the extra bone on the ankle or whatever. That it’s all, it seems to be normal. So medical science just says it’s okay, whatever it is, it seems to be fine, to that person. Also the lower back, especially in people that are thin, is strengthening, becoming thicker. The bone mass becoming thicker. I have shown that the muscles around the spine are becoming a little bit more rounder, protecting the spine in a sense.
Alan Steinfeld
So would you say we’re sort of actually transmuting into a new species? Like a new…
Doreen Bray
Metamorphosize I guess you could say. Well you you may have even heard someone say to you, ‘Jeez, you look so different. What’s going on in your life?’ And it may be, if you look in the mirror, you might find, geez, I do look different. And it might be in a very good way. Because with these changes, there’s, there’s, there’s something about it that’s that’s more beautiful and it could be because it’s just more light.
Alan Steinfeld
Wow, that’s I haven’t haven’t really heard that one. I mean I’ve heard a lot, but I haven’t heard that. I mean the fact that the that the lower back and the left leg, I mean that’s…
Doreen Bray
And the wrists, the wrists.
Alan Steinfeld
And the wrists. Are what what’s happening with the…?
Doreen Bray
Well the wrists, there’s extra bone growth. So the bones are becoming thicker in order to be able to transmit this energy through the hands, the fingers. You might might feel like they’re a bit arthritic as they go through their metamorphosis. The shoulders, some people are growing what almost seems like a bit of wings, because the bone is on each side growing in a very odd place right next to the shoulder bone. All kinds of very interesting things. Oh, one, the rib cage. There’s in a lot of people, it’s almost like a hook that’s developing in the diaphragm area just where the rib cage ends. A hook, you say? In some people it’s like a hook, in others it’s like almost like a disc that’s forming. It’s actual formation. Some people might feel as though they’re having a heart attack, because as the the thymus expands, which is part of the higher heart or it’s called the seat of the soul, as we’re bringing in these higher frequencies, grounding them to earth, then the thymus, the higher thymus is all expanding, and it may feel as though the chest is trying to burst out. And it could actually feel as though you’re having a heart attack and medically people rush to the hospital.
Alan Steinfeld
And you’re not…
Doreen Bray
I mean, of course, if you think you are, you should always get a medical examination to make sure.
Alan Steinfeld
But you’re saying in many cases, it’s just an expansion of the heart chakra, basically.
Doreen Bray
Right, especially people who are on path and working with with trying to become a better human in whatever way that means to them.
Alan Steinfeld
Well it seems it does seem like from what you’re saying is that we are evolving into what JJ Hurtak calls Homo luminous, the light, the light human. The kind of like higher vibration human. Yes.
Doreen Bray
Definitely. That’s true biology.
Alan Steinfeld
And so it’s a new, it’s it’s a new species that, do you see then like people who don’t want to make that change just not inhabiting the new earth that we’re moving into?
Doreen Bray
I think that this is part of the problem that we’re seeing, because these energies are much higher frequency, it may create depression in people because they don’t understand, what’s going on in themselves and how they’re feeling and their emotions. In most cases, what happens is this this more this light that’s coming in, it reveals to your screen, to your mind’s screen, all your pain and suffering, and it seems as though it’s replaying itself too much, where it can drive a person almost to insanity. But what’s really going on is the light is bringing this to your attention so it’s showing you what you need to heal to take the next step. Not to become swamped in or engrossed within, but only what it is that is the next thing in your evolution.
Alan Steinfeld
Right. So, so if we go to the old reactive way, like we talked earlier in the show, as, as just kind of indulging the emotions, we don’t get it, but if we go to the kind of observer consciousness, then we see that these things are coming up for us to look at, to own, to let go of, and to move on.
Doreen Bray
Yes, the most powerful tool is forgiveness.
Alan Steinfeld
Because forgiveness is, as a teacher I had said, forgetting, you let it go, you forgive…
Doreen Bray
Yes, it’s not, it’s not you, it’s not just that. Forgiveness, and I think that this is important that people will realize, it’s not saying whatever happened to you was right or that it was wrong. It’s not a judgment. Forgiveness is just, yeah, it’s just saying what was, was. Maybe you were not conscious at that time and that’s why you did or said what you did or said. It’s allowing the person to be human if you like, and knowing that all humans make giant mistakes, I don’t know anyone who hasn’t made humongous ones that they wish they never did. And to give the person that space, even though they may have repeated whatever brought you pain hundreds of times over, that that was part of your evolution, part of your growth. And to forgive them for playing that role in your life, because if they didn’t play it and it was something you needed to get, someone else would have played it.
Alan Steinfeld
Right, so you can forgive everyone in your life then and and just move more into the present.
Doreen Bray
But you need to actually have heart felt forgiveness. It’s not just a mind thing. You need to actually feel it and release them from the debt you’re holding over them.
Alan Steinfeld
Right, right.
Doreen Bray
Because as long as you don’t forgive them, then they have power over you.
Alan Steinfeld
Right.
Doreen Bray
That means that you’ll always say, ‘Well, I’m this way because of that.’ And that gives you permission to not heal it, because you’re saying it’s their fault. The moment you say, ‘I forgive them,’ it’s not their fault, it’s nobody’s fault. It’s part of the universal plan. It’s what’s needed to occur for me to be who I need to be, and I’m just letting it go like that, then I now am taking my power back to heal myself in the present moment.
Alan Steinfeld
Right. Thank you. That’s a good one. Thank you. But so let’s, I mean, actually, we have a little more extended time tonight. So I mean, are you doing okay?
Doreen Bray
Yeah, I’m awesome. Thank you.
Alan Steinfeld
Enjoying this? Because it’s just coming, it’s just coming through you, right? I mean it’s just kind of, you’re…
Doreen Bray
Oh it does. Yes, I’m, I’m blessed. Thank you.
Alan Steinfeld
Well then let’s talk a little bit about your process. I mean, what is happening with, who are you? What are you doing? I mean, you know, ask me who I am and I still can’t figure it out. No, no, no, it’s not that, but I think you’ve had an unusual experience in the sense where you’ve, lots of people have connections to unseen beings, but somehow you were able to trust your experience of them and welcome them and and therefore evolve your consciousness to a new place because you only had these inner teachers. I mean, that’s how I understood it. What was going on for you?
Doreen Bray
It could be because my physical life was was full of pain and suffering, and since I could not reach out to physical beings for comfort, I reached in another direction. And I sometimes wonder when I meet people who come to me for, to help them through their healing process, I wonder if maybe the same thing has happened to them, that they needed to learn how to go within, to trust the Source, to trust All That Is, instead of reaching external to the people in their lives.
Alan Steinfeld
But do you think because you had all that suffering and this is I mean, you know, this is just not a skeptical question, but you think you could have made up those inner beings, fragments of your own mind because you needed to create them as a, as a, you know, a harbor, a safe harbor inside yourself.
Doreen Bray
I think it’s a good question. The thing is I’ve never been outside of them, as as far as my memory takes me, which, by the way, I remember being born.
Alan Steinfeld
You do? Did you always…
Doreen Bray
I remember my my life, I remember my life in between, my last life in this one even.
Alan Steinfeld
Wait, did you did at one point come back to you or did you always remember it?
Doreen Bray
I’ve always known, just like you knew what you know what yesterday was for you, it’s always been as clear to me.
Alan Steinfeld
So you always knew when you were born, that you, like, you never were unconscious, you’re saying?
Doreen Bray
I guess that’s a good way of saying it, yes.
Alan Steinfeld
Do you remember yourself in the womb as well? Or did you come in at…
Doreen Bray
I remember before birth, very, very clearly.
Alan Steinfeld
What was that like?
Doreen Bray
Oh. Okay, I was a head that that moved through non-time and non-space if you like, quite rapidly. And I had this long, long- I don’t want to say tail, but almost like how when an airplane moves it has this jet stream- so as I moved, I had this very colorful, colors we don’t even have on Earth, in this stream behind me, and as I moved it was, it was waving this way and that. And I was ahead very similar to my face and head now, except that it was all colors and constantly streaming. And an interesting thing is that when I didn’t move, when I stopped, my tail caught up with me and I became a round ball.
Alan Steinfeld
Uh-huh. So you were like an energy essence in a sense.
Doreen Bray
Totally. Yes.
Alan Steinfeld
And did you have like the same feelings or a sensation and perception?
Doreen Bray
I was I was me. There’s no difference between that energy and who I am today.
Alan Steinfeld
But what’s the difference of coming into a- But what’s the difference about inhabiting a body that is different than being an energy being?
Doreen Bray
The body is slower, it’s denser. There’s a time response. It takes, it’s mechanical, so you need to learn how to move it and use it. So these things can frustrate spirit.
Alan Steinfeld
So did you, do you feel sensation in the body that you don’t feel as spirit though, right?
Doreen Bray
Yes. But if you link the two.
Alan Steinfeld
But do you feel sensa- anything, sensation as spirit? Do you feel any- because there’s no thing to feel sensation except…
Doreen Bray
The life force, power, is so strong. There’s such a vivid state of aliveness that surpasses what we have experienced in physical form today.
Alan Steinfeld
Really? So it’s like- but is there a sensation- I mean is there an exhilaration, ecstasy, what…
Doreen Bray
Yes! And you know you’re alive. And every, every part of you is in joy. There’s no separation. It’s just a joy in you.
Alan Steinfeld
So then when you- and then you came in, so how why did you choose to end up suffering the way you did even though you remembered that you were this energy, you know, you…
Doreen Bray
Because the physical world is, has is full of sparkling lights and money and illusion, and we get lost. So easily. So easily. Like like a moth when it’s in the city. It gets lost. It it goes into the lights, it gets burnt on the lights because it’s dazzled by them. People are the same. We get dazzled by all of these lights and electromagnetic fields and we get lost in it all. So I believe we set ourselves up before birth to certain for certain roles to be played by different people, that if you haven’t got it by such an age, then this person will bring you this gift, you might think of it as pain and suffering, but it it may be a way for you to get to the next level because each person comes in like a particular geometric formation, like as intricate as a snowflake. And we fit, the snowflake fits in the pattern of all that is. And we need to represent that pattern in its fullness. So we blossom into it. For that blossoming to occur, certain situations may need to be set up. Because you know the flesh does have its limitations and this world which is full of illusion, as you know, tells us one thing when it’s really experiencing another.
Alan Steinfeld
So even though you never forgot who you were and where you came from, you still got lost in the shuffle in the phenomena?
Doreen Bray
Well yeah, yeah for sure. And you know even though I was I was very very gifted as a child and people came to me as a child to to help them to see what they couldn’t see, maybe it’s the best way for me to word it, in my own particular circumstances in my own life, I was powerless. Uh-huh. Now why is that? Because you had to learn the lessons for yourself.
Doreen Bray
Yes, the child mentality, believing that we’re a victim, believing that adults are smarter, believing, you know. Children today I think are breaking free from this. We we are now entering a time and age of timelessness, where everything is brought into the living room, so the child can learn very easily what is right and what is wrong, what a parent or guardian should do or shouldn’t do.
Alan Steinfeld
Uh-huh. So we are being brought into a timelessness that’s that’s an acceleration of time as we’ve known it.
Doreen Bray
Completely. And that’s why many people feel that they’re rushing so much every which way, but it’s only because they’re trying to keep up with this timelessness that’s coming in.
Alan Steinfeld
But don’t you think that’s why you’re here because you remembered the timelessness of it and you’re reminding other people of that at this at this time particularly, right?
Doreen Bray
If I can do anything then I would love to do that. Yes, I would love to remind people. Well, you are reminding people. I mean I mean you reminded me. But let’s just go back then, so you before you with this energy, you were another life, you had another life, and where was that?
Doreen Bray
Maybe someday we’ll talk about it, but I don’t know if now is appropriate.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh. Do you know though? I have always been a teacher.
Doreen Bray
You do know. It wasn’t appropriate because it’s like something expressed…
Alan Steinfeld
Well because the subject now goes into so many different areas because number one, I wasn’t female in my last life. So now we’re bridging all kinds of belief systems.
Doreen Bray
But that’s okay. No, I don’t think the spirit is male or female, you know, so. I mean I know, I’ve heard those concepts. I mean they’re not new to me, so I mean, I don’t know. If you don’t feel like you want to talk about that, but I’m open to listening. But we could talk about other things, as far as, well, just like if you trace your lifetimes back, even before that one and that one and that one, where does it all go? Where’s, where’s it like, where’s the end of that thread connect to?
Alan Steinfeld
To the beginning of the universe.
Doreen Bray
And what is that? Who are you at that moment? Where are we all? What is it?
Alan Steinfeld
We’re all one conscious being. It’s consciousness in its purest state.
Doreen Bray
Consciousness trying to create.
Alan Steinfeld
It creates itself.
Doreen Bray
Yes, because in the trying, it’s the unknown. It’s always about stepping into the unknown. So it’s the great experiment.
Alan Steinfeld
So the consciousness itself was knew and embraced the unknown, and it created more creation.
Doreen Bray
Mm. Yes, it created creations out of itself. Mm-hmm.
Alan Steinfeld
So in a sense we’re still doing that, I think.
Doreen Bray
Totally. We’re still embracing the unknown so we can create more of creation.
Alan Steinfeld
Yes, and you know the interesting thing about it is the closer you get to the unknown, you actually are not getting closer because the unknown is being added onto through all of the minds everywhere, in all planets, in all solar systems, in all dimensions, the unknown is being constantly added onto through each person, each individual, each creature’s discovery of self. So as we climb higher, it’s not a good vocabulary, but as we move into greater frequencies of knowingness, then consciousness is also expanding. So there’s no end to our expansion. We’ll never get there. There is no there.
Doreen Bray
There’s no there there.
Alan Steinfeld
Forever creation. Forever evolving.
Doreen Bray
So wait, so you know I always find it discerning when people say ‘Well, when am I going to get there? When do I have to stop meditating?’ You never stop meditating. It’s a life- forever, all-lifetime missions, to become more, to become greater, to right the crest of all that is.
Alan Steinfeld
Yeah, but it’s it’s sort of like you graduate from one grade and you don’t have to repeat those lessons again.
Doreen Bray
I agree. I agree. But all I’m saying is the stretch never stops.
Alan Steinfeld
Right. So I mean do you feel like you then are here to help other people then reach more of that unknown? Or are you here for yourself to evolve more? I mean or both? I mean…
Doreen Bray
Both. Both because the yes, as I evolve, others evolve, as others evolve, I evolve, we all evolve together.
Alan Steinfeld
But but what’d you say that part again where you said like the un when as soon as we go get more into the unknown, wait, what did you say exactly? I want to follow that thought.
Doreen Bray
Okay. As we stretch to know more and become more, we step into the unknown more and more, raising our frequencies and bridging the gap between what we knew 10 years ago to what we know today. And the further we stretch ourselves into the unknown, the further the unknown stretches itself, because it’s not just gathering information from the little creature called Alan or Doreen or whoever, but it is an expansion from all of creation in all dimensions, all time, all space, backward and forward in time, because there is no time. So the unknown is constantly expanding beyond what what our little human minds can comprehend. So the stretch is forever. It’s like a plant that rises itself out of the ground that reaches up for the sun. It doesn’t think, when will I ever stop stretching? It just stretches.
Alan Steinfeld
Well it’s like moving towards the horizon, the horizon always moves as we move towards it.
Doreen Bray
Perfect. Yes.
Alan Steinfeld
But we’re still moving.
Doreen Bray
Yes, we’re still moving towards something that is forever unreachable.
Alan Steinfeld
And that’s part of the excitement. That’s part of the fun of of stretching of and what we’re here to do, but on another level, we can just sit here and say well I’m just gonna stop because I’ll never get there. But, you know, if there is no there, it’s your personal evolution. That evolution becomes the foundation that you step upon, we evolve some more, it becomes another foundation we step upon. And the growth accelerates and who we are accelerates until we finally move into joy, peace, salvation, sanctuary, enlightenment. That’s the there. I mean I could say that’s a place where, you know, once you reach joy and sanctuary and enlightenment, don’t you think you’re there? Don’t you think you’ve the struggle is over and you can sort of just coast, in a sense. I mean you’re in the flow of all that there all that is.
Doreen Bray
That’s the thing. We’re always in the flow, whether we believe we are or not.
Alan Steinfeld
But there are people who though have consciously reached that level of of movement, where they’re living in joy each moment, don’t you think?
Doreen Bray
Oh, yeah. And that joy can become greater, the peace deeper, the message much more profound, if they continue to stretch.
Alan Steinfeld
So do we ever resolve it all? Do you see it at some point it all being resolved back into the Source that created us, or is it an ongoing expansion to forever or is it both or neither? I mean where is it all ultimately? What do you…
Doreen Bray
Returning to the void is a possibility if one so desires, but otherwise you are on a perpetual journey of expansion and growth.
Alan Steinfeld
But where are we going?
Doreen Bray
It’s not where we’re going, that’s important, it’s the journey.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay, it’s a great journey. But I mean, if you think of where you’re going, then that means there’s a destination, that means there’s an end, and there is no end.
Doreen Bray
There is no end as you see it. I mean not that there’s an end, but…
Alan Steinfeld
The thing is, because every little particle of existence opens up into so many dimensions I can’t even count them, and the possibilities are unlimited. So each person has how many particles, billions of them, to explore within their own range. And which possibilities they undertake is beyond anyone’s knowledge. So…
Doreen Bray
So, what direction will all of this go? Nobody really knows for sure because we’ve never gone there before.
Alan Steinfeld
Right, we’re creating it as we go there. But what, is there been a purpose then for it all?
Doreen Bray
Yes, for sure. The great experiment.
Alan Steinfeld
And what did we learn in this great experiment? What has it all for? The great experiment?
Doreen Bray
Well the lessons haven’t been learnt yet.
Alan Steinfeld
Well some of them have. I mean because we’ve been doing it for millions of years, right? I mean… or billions of years.
Doreen Bray
No, I think some of the lessons have been learnt, really, they have. I mean, perhaps, but the greatest lessons are yet to come. And they’re not about pain and suffering, they’re not about poverty or denial.
Alan Steinfeld
No, no, no. I totally agree with you. The greatest lessons I feel are, and for me they’ve been this, having the thought and embracing the thought and manifesting it, and owning it and feeling a sort of satisfaction with one’s intention. Is that close to what you meant? I mean, that’s what I… I mean it’s a sort of an embrace of our creation basically is what I feel are some of the great thoughts that are still to be known.
Doreen Bray
But what does that mean? It means that we can acknowledge ourselves for having been a part of the creation and added to it. And so what? And still our part of that creation.
Alan Steinfeld
And still are. Yeah, never outside of it, always within it, forever transforming through it, and because of it.
Doreen Bray
So then what, let’s look at like a little bit into the future. What do you see, okay, as our body starts to change as the earth starts to increase, how does the world look in 5 years or 10 years or 50 years, 100 years. What do you see if you look into the future? Because you are a visionary, you can see that. So what are you seeing?
Alan Steinfeld
Divine peace. An earth where we move back into guardianship, where we make this, once again, the Garden of Eden. Originally we came to play, to take care of the animals and the creatures, to prune the trees, and harvest the fruit. We came to be at peace with one another and play in the garden, run with the wild horses, not to enslave them. So to return to that garden state, return to becoming the guardian.
Doreen Bray
Right. Well, no that’s good. No, I’m with you. So I mean oh I just want to tell people if they’re tuning in now, I’m talking to Doreen Bray, who’s a teacher, healer, intuitive. I think none of those words really encompass who you are.
Alan Steinfeld
Do you have a, wait, people can contact you because you give readings, you give courses. How can people reach you?
Doreen Bray
Well they can definitely click onto the website www.iehinstitute.com
Alan Steinfeld
IEH stands for… Institute in Energetic Healing. iehinstitute.com. And then they can find out all kinds of information about myself and how to get in contact with me.
Doreen Bray
Okay, and just tell people what do you do? You do private readings and you do what else? I have a school in Montreal where I assist people to first begin their own healing journey and eventually once they have done so to begin to help others reach their fullest potential and help them to heal. So they do become certified therapists. I give sweat lodge ceremonies, I work with the medicine wheel, I do meditations, usually fairly large group meditations, lectures, ceremonies, wow, I’m there. I do healings one-on-one, or maybe healing is not a good word, personal consultations maybe would be a better way of verbalizing it. I work with sound and vibrational therapies, Chinese medicine, acupressure, so many different ways depending on who the individual is and what their needs are.
Alan Steinfeld
I see. What’s the purpose of the sweat lodge? Because I’ve done them and they’re amazing but what’s the purpose?
Doreen Bray
The sweat lodge for people who don’t know looks almost like an igloo, but it’s made with special trees, they’re water trees, usually of the willow family, that hold a high amount of water content because as you probably already know, water is the electromagnetic transference of earth energy. And these these fresh trees are cut in ceremony, and in prayer, and in offering, they are bent into the shape of like an igloo. There’s a tarp, usually a breathable material put over it, and then there’s a a deep pit put in the center. So when you go inside it’s pitch black. And outside the sweat lodge there’s usually a roaring bonfire where they take large rocks that represent the earth, the sun, the moon, and all of the elements. And those rocks are then heated in the fire and those red hot rocks are then moved into the center of this igloo-shaped building. You go into the darkness. It is created like the womb of Mother Earth where you go in to recreate yourself anew. So it’s like a new birthing process. So as you you know already, there’s usually a mixture of cedar, pine, and evergreen so that when water is poured on the rocks the steam is released into these medicinals, so it is a therapeutic for the body so it’s cleansing of the pores and of the liver and of all of the toxins that the physical body holds. And normally somebody is in ceremony, the leader of the lodge is in ceremony, maybe drumming, chanting, and bringing you into meditation, into self, moving past the fear and into healing on all levels of your being. So it’s mind, body, and soul.
Alan Steinfeld
It’s very intense. I don’t usually sweat but in the sweat lodges it just drips off of you. I mean it’s just…
Doreen Bray
Yes, it does. A bandana is a good choice.
Alan Steinfeld
It’s just so intense the heat because you’re pouring the water on those really hot rocks. Steaming. I mean sometimes you just have to get close to the ground so you can breathe, you know.
Doreen Bray
Yeah. A lot of times, traditionally depending what who you’re following, some sweat lodges have men and women separately. And I’ve noticed that when when this is the case, the men’s lodges are always a lot hotter than the women’s. Because the men like to beat their chests and do the man thing, like who can stand it more, hotter than who else? Whereas the women will have a tendency to have it hot, but not so much so where you’re almost fainting.
Alan Steinfeld
Uh-huh. So you have, are you- you do mixed sweats? I do them both male and female.
Doreen Bray
I see. And you do them like every month up there in Canada?
Alan Steinfeld
Minimum of once a month, but I also give retreat workshops. So in those workshops, I do, myself personally, I give about two to three a week.
Doreen Bray
And how many people attend, like a sweat lodge? For the public sweat lodges, we’ll get 30, 40 people. Really? In one lodge? Yep. For the retreats, I never take more than eight people.
Alan Steinfeld
That’s a huge sweat lodge for 40 people. Yeah, it’s a big sweat lodge, yes. Yes, it is. I mean that’s huge. That is huge. Yes it is, much larger than the traditional one. Yeah, because it doesn’t seem like it could get that hot for 40 people. I mean, I guess it does. Oh yes, believe me it does. Yes. Wow, that’s a huge sweat- I’ve never been in a 40 person sweat lodge. I think I’d feel a little claustrophobic, actually.
Doreen Bray
Well, yeah, that’s why I try to keep the amounts down if possible I ask people to please sign up before. It’s not always possible, people do show up, ‘surprise, here I am, can you accommodate me?’ If they’re there at the beginning of the ceremony, then- and it’s not overcrowded. And the energies are very important too, you know, if some people’s energies are just not in resonance with what’s going on, then of course it just, it may not manifest for them at that time.
Alan Steinfeld
Right. To stay outside the lodge and be in prayer and just to begin to feel what it’s like, because maybe they might be in too much fear to go in the first time. And that’s something to consider. Because you are going into the pitch dark and, you know, for some people who might be claustrophobic, it may be better to slowly acclimatize oneself.
Doreen Bray
Yeah, I mean I was a little claustrophobic at first. I mean, because I think in my past life I was in a concentration camp and suffocated, and… You remember that? You see that? So I was right. How do you see stuff like that? It’s just within the cells. You see it.
Alan Steinfeld
You, but you actually see a picture?
Doreen Bray
It’s a knowingness. It’s not like something that the mind creates picture-form wise or what we’re used to. It’s a feeling energy, vibration, smell, taste, an all knowingness. And that then brings forth like a picture. Picture like. You get a knowingness of that person.
Alan Steinfeld
You mean, so you saw this before I said it, right?
Doreen Bray
Oh yes.
Alan Steinfeld
But you weren’t going to tell me?
Doreen Bray
Well what I like to do- I used to do that when I was you know from three to about 18, 19. But after that I I found that it was much better to lead the person to discover these things for themselves, because then it’s cellularly, ‘yes, that’s what I was,’ instead of somebody saying, ‘oh well, so and so told me that I was…’
Alan Steinfeld
Right. Yeah. No, it has to become an inner truth for sure for sure. The inner truth is the only truth. For sure. For someone giving a reading, it’s just an external validation. But believing that and it’s a mind thing then. It’s not a personal experience. So it’s much better to have it as a personal experience and then confirm it with someone for sure.
Alan Steinfeld
Well speaking of personal experiences, maybe you can lead us right now through a sort of meditation so people can actually have an experience for themselves, because it’s great talking to you and we can talk for hours, but I think as you kind of go into that meditation experience people will then start to be activated in their own consciousness of where you can lead them and what you can do with them. So, do you want to- do you feel like doing that for the next like 10 minutes?
Alan Steinfeld
Sure, no problem.
Doreen Bray
Okay, so go ahead. Do you want me to play any music or anything or…?
Alan Steinfeld
No, that’s quite alright. Because we were speaking about healing and cleansing, I will take you into a form of meditation that will begin that process.
Alan Steinfeld
Great. Okay, I’m ready to go.
Doreen Bray
Okay. So if everyone would just take a few deep breaths and just relax yourself with your breath. Let your breath let everything go. Breathe it away. Making long, slow, deep breaths. And try to breathe all the way down to the base of your spine. Filling your abdomen completely. And releasing the air. On the release, letting everything go. Just watching your breath, nothing else. Relaxing all the muscles in your shoulders. Relaxing the muscles in your neck and in your face. Relaxing the muscles in your spine. And the hips. Letting go of the tension in the bowels. In the solar plexus area. And just breathing. Try to make each breath a little bit longer. A little bit deeper. Than the breath before. Slowing down your breathing. And just for a moment, tell yourself, I am feeling more and more peaceful with each breath. I’m feeling more and more peaceful with each breath. I can feel waves of peace moving through me. Peace is everywhere within me. And I’m letting go into peace. And now, bring your attention to the base of your spine. And imagine for a moment you have a magnet there. And that magnet is pulling the base of your spine to the core of the Earth. It’s electromagnetically attracted to the core. And allow your spine to straighten to that energy, so the energy from the core of the Earth can go up your spine and hold you. And feel yourself anchoring there. Imagining you have a magnet at the base of your spine, electromagnetically pulling the base of your spine to the core of the Earth. And feel your hips becoming solid, anchored, strong. They may even feel a little heavy. As you’re letting go at a deeper and deeper level. And try to imagine this electromagnetic attraction between the core of the Earth and the base of your spine and let go into it. Relax all the muscles of your body and allow that pull to pull out all the tension. Let go into it. Releasing all the tension in the legs, in the feet, in the toes, and allowing this electromagnetic pull to cleanse, to heal, all the circulation of the legs, the feet, the toes. Removing the static, the junk that we collect in our daily lives. And just allow it. And now imagine that your spine is a magnet, and to it, all the junk from your body, from your organs, from your mind, all the static of your life is being attracted to the spine and then to the base of the spine, and then out through this electromagnetic pull to the core of the Earth. So now you’re cleansing by allowing all the junk, all the static to go to the spine, to the base of the spine, and out to the core of the Earth. And you’re letting go into that. Still breathing deeply. And allow all the stuff of your life to drain. To move into the spine, into the base of the spine, and out. Release all the tension in the organs. Let the stuff go. Releasing all the tension in the bowels, in the kidneys. Letting it all go. Releasing the tension in the stomach, solar plexus area, liver, kidneys, spleen, pancreas. Letting all the tension go. Letting it all go to the spine. Electromagnetically attracted there. To the base of the spine and out. And everything wants to move to the core. It’s all being pulled. Electromagnetically pulled. All you have to do is let go. And allow your heart now to empty. All the pain and suffering. Let it move to the spine, to the base of the spine, and out. All the wounds. All the sabotage. All the things that occurred that were not right. That were painful. Let it go. Allow it to move to the spine, to the base of the spine, and out. And feel your heart empty. Letting all of the negative patterns, negative feelings, negative emotions go. Breathe deep into the chest area. Let all the tension of your life, of all lives, go. And you may get flashes of things. If anything remains in your mind’s eye, any story. Feel forgiveness for it. And allow it to be attracted to the spine, to the base of the spine, to the core of the Earth. Let it go. Let it go. Let it go. And the throat. All the things you were forced to swallow. All the things you couldn’t choke back. Let them go now. All the things you wanted to say but couldn’t. All the things you did say that came out wrong. Let them go. Releasing them all to the spine. All of that being electromagnetically attracted there, going down to the base of the spine, pulled to the core of the Earth. Release it all. Relaxing the neck and the throat area, the chest area. Releasing everything. Letting it all go. The jaw. All the tensions in the jaw. Releasing everything kept there. All the secrets. All the words not said. Not expressed. All the things said in anger and in fear. Let all the static, all the emotions, all those trapped energies move to the base of the spine and out. Everything being attracted to the spine, to the base of the spine, and out to the core of the Earth. Let it all go. And you may feel all tension melting as you release at a deeper and deeper level. Releasing at a deeper and deeper level. Keep your breath slow and deep. It will assist you in breathing it all away. Letting it all go. Letting all tension release. And you may sense layer upon layer of shadows of grey things going to the spine, all static being released at the base of the spine to the core of the Earth. Letting it all go. Let all tension everywhere go. Breathe it all away. Deep within self, move into the peace. Allow peace to rise. Breathe the word peace in.
Alan Steinfeld
We’re reaching end to the show. Do you take us out of it or do we just stay in the peace?
Doreen Bray
Please stay in the peace. But if you’re so inclined, just ask for a moment that deep, powerful, and profound healing energy move into all the areas of your body where there was once static, tension, darkness in any way. Asking for deep, powerful, and profound healing energy to move into every cell, all the way down to the DNA.
Alan Steinfeld
Thank you. Thank you very much, Doreen.
Doreen Bray
I thank you, Alan.
Alan Steinfeld
If people want to reach you, just tell them again how to find you.
Doreen Bray
Yes. www.iehinstitute.com
Alan Steinfeld
Right. Good. Thank you. We’ll have more of these conversations over the next couple of months, okay?
Doreen Bray
Wonderful, Alan. Thank you so much.
Alan Steinfeld
This is Alan Steinfeld, and you’ve been listening to New Realities on BBSRadio.com. And I’m on every Sunday night at 9:30 East Coast time, 6:30 West Coast time. You can also reach me through the email at newrealities@earthlink.net. My name is Alan Steinfeld. Also, check out my website newrealities.tv for past interviews. And I welcome any comments, suggestions, ideas. Please let me know what you’ve been thinking of the last couple of shows, and I hope to see you next week or hear from you, and I’m gonna end with this song called The Song of the Soul by Cris Williamson. Do you know that song, Doreen?
Doreen Bray
I’m going to know it now.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay. Here it goes. Thank you, everybody, for listening. This is Alan Steinfeld with Doreen Bray, and here is The Song of the Soul.