New Realities recorded May 27, 2007
Summary
Alan Steinfeld hosts a discussion on the intersection of evolving human consciousness and new media. His first guest, Paula Gloria, a public access television and YouTube creator, shares her perspectives on how platforms like the internet act as modern elements of connectivity, challenging corporate media and fostering authenticity and alternative narratives. The second guest, Rana Chudnofsky, guides listeners through a comprehensive body relaxation meditation designed to release tension and promote inner peace.
Transcript
Alan Steinfeld
Welcome to New Realities. I’m Alan Steinfeld, and this program is dedicated to exploring evolving human potentials in an evolving world. This series explores the ideas of how to become more conscious beings, and I present programs that invite the listener to look at their automatic behaviors and take free reign of their body, mind, and spirit so that we all can hope to inhabit a better planet, a better world. This program is constantly on the lookout for new and different perspectives in achieving a greater and more peaceful reality for the planet. It is about embracing a synthesis of rational understanding with mystical awareness. Thank you for tuning in tonight to this new edition of New Realities on BBSRadio.com. I’ve been hosting the series now for about almost eight weeks, about six, seven, eight weeks, and you can listen to the archives at BBSRadio.com. Click on New Realities and you can listen to some of the past shows with Dr. J.J. Hurtak talking about the release of new UFO information, human sexuality with Patti Taylor, and Charles Muir was a show. I’ve had lots of interesting shows. Philip Gruber talking about the esoteric meaning of the Wizard of Oz. And tonight’s show is going to be a whole different flavor. We’re talking tonight, I’m going to be talking to one of my guests, Paula Gloria, who’s a star of YouTube, and she is going to be talking about spirituality in the new media, and that’ll be coming up in about five minutes. My second guest, about 10 minutes after the hour, will be giving us a healing meditation and how to relax during the daily stresses of the day. I’m Alan Steinfeld, and I’ve been doing a form of this show on cable television. You can go to newrealities.tv and look at a list of over 300 guests, people like Ram Dass and Deepak Chopra, J.Z. Knight, many people in the body mind health field. And it started as a way of promoting different events that I do in New York. There are some events coming up this week, one with John D. Martini on May 31st. It’s going to be a great evening in Manhattan with John D. Martini. You can call 212-473-6388 for more information. Also coming up in June, there is going to be a UFO conference at the, at the pioneer theater to celebrate 60 years of contact with the beginning in 1947 with the Roswell crash and in the Kenneth Arnold sightings where he coined the word flying saucer. So basically it’s, this whole program, and I’ll quote Huxley, that says, our business is to wake up. We have to find a way in which to detect the whole of reality in its illusionary parts. And that is the sense that we are seeking to find the essence of what this reality is about and go beyond the mundane, beyond the surface, to talk about the deep hidden spiritual traditions which we are now touching in many places. There’s also another quote I like to cite by Lewis Mumford, who started the Esalen Institute, and he says, we stand on the brink of a new age, an age of an open world. It is a time of renewal when the fresh energies of spiritual upliftment can be unleashed so new possibilities can arise. History teaches us that new realities emerge when paradigms shift. So leading into my first guest, we are in the midst of a paradigm shift, a way of looking at the world that we have not experienced before with new media. Even this radio program is a new form of media that’s like the old form of radio mixed with the modern technologies of computers and also telephone. It’s like everything’s coming together to give us a new way of communicating with each other, and we’re even evolving that. At some point, I think television is going to be obsolete and there’ll just be these ongoing series on things like YouTube. And we’ll be talking to one of the stars of YouTube. I think she’s on the line now. This is Paula Gloria. Paula?
Paula Gloria
Hi Alan.
Alan Steinfeld
Hi. I was just giving an introduction about the ways consciousness and spirituality are using the new media to take hold of the world. How do you see spirituality and the new media really being focused now?
Paula Gloria
I think spirituality and consciousness has always been there. I like to think of the internet as the air element, because as you know I’m interested in the Divine Mother and the five elements. And like our cable TV shows, because I’ve had a cable TV show thanks to you for many years.
Alan Steinfeld
Tell us the name of your show.
Paula Gloria
It’s Farther Down the Rabbit Hole. And it’s on every day in Manhattan on channel 34. And so I say that cable TV is going through the earth. And I know the feeling I get when I’ve got my audience watching every day.
Alan Steinfeld
So you’re saying what’s air and what’s earth?
Paula Gloria
The air is the internet. And the earth is the cable show.
Alan Steinfeld
Now how does that even mean anything to anybody? I mean, can you just go over the five elements a little bit and see how we can connect our media into it?
Paula Gloria
Well, that there’s not a difference between consciousness and matter. And that it’s all just a play of elements. Earth, air, fire, water, ether. And that there’s not some big judge up in the sky with his laptop. But that it’s just a play of the elements. That’s why the Buddhists don’t believe in God. Because it’s not some ultimate authority passing judgment.
Alan Steinfeld
So this new media is a kind of new play of the elements in a new form, is that what you’re saying?
Paula Gloria
Yeah. Exactly.
Alan Steinfeld
So if you have earth as the cable television and air as the internet, then what would be the water and the fire and the ether? I mean, I would think something like psychic activity is sort of the ether, a psychic sense of each other, wouldn’t you say?
Paula Gloria
Maybe. Yeah. I was just pulling out how when I feel my audience on the internet on YouTube, it’s a different feeling than my audience on the cable.
Alan Steinfeld
Do you feel your audience here on this radio show?
Paula Gloria
Well, last week I did a show for you, or a couple weeks ago. And I didn’t get any call-ins, so it’s hard for me to say.
Alan Steinfeld
But can you just feel them? Can you just feel them listening to every word?
Paula Gloria
Yeah, it’s the air element. It’s going out over the internet.
Alan Steinfeld
It’s going out over the internet. But anyway, let’s get back to really how spirituality is taking a new form as it seems like things are accelerating. It’s like the whole idea behind 2012 was what Terence McKenna said, that all of time would be compressed into a single day. It seems like as you look on YouTube, everything that has ever been broadcast seems to be available in the last what 60 years of broadcast media seems all right there at our fingertips. Isn’t it phenomenal how it’s a recapitulation of the last 60 years?
Paula Gloria
Well, the potential is there. But I mean, there’s also 300 videos that were taken down off a 9/11 site. So I think that’s something to be aware of, is some part in us that’s incomplete.
Alan Steinfeld
You mean that’s being censored.
Paula Gloria
Yeah. Because they’re, you know. But that’s kind of a play we are all responsible for. You know.
Alan Steinfeld
What do you mean?
Paula Gloria
I don’t believe that there’s a victim and a tyrant. It’s a play. And so if somebody had a site with 300 videos up with some provocative material, and then some CIA or whatever or Homeland Security takes it down, well this is still our creation too. And we do it for a reason.
Alan Steinfeld
But isn’t the Divine Mother about transformation and destruction and all that? Isn’t Kali an aspect of that?
Paula Gloria
You mean the 300 videos are up and then they’re down?
Alan Steinfeld
Well, I don’t know, you’re saying it’s the Divine Mother at play. So where does the aspects of the Divine Mother come into play? Or did I just make too much of a stretch for you and our audience there?
Paula Gloria
No, no, not at all.
Alan Steinfeld
So tell me, how does that fit into this whole idea?
Paula Gloria
Well, there’s different ways to look at it. Some could say that the status quo doesn’t want to see provocative videos that say that the way we were told on corporate media how the buildings came down, you know, in other words, the mass consciousness doesn’t want it. So if they’re looking at things that are going to destroy their social consensus or social agreement. But I always feel that spirituality is all about that. That you make a connection with the divine and social mediocracy is not so important anymore. You’re not finding your identification through your image. So you can handle more out of the envelope concepts.
Alan Steinfeld
But YouTube, let’s say, isn’t it taking it all to another level of almost, it’s almost etheric in a sense. It’s way beyond any image, it’s kind of becoming a sort of free for all of evolving consciousness. It’s almost as if you can’t even tell which video is yours anymore, as people use your video, it’s a whole loss of ego. As people use clips from let’s say your television show and incorporate it into their YouTube clipping, then you incorporate that. It’s a whole mixing of collective consciousness. Isn’t that interesting?
Paula Gloria
I’m not exactly sure.
Alan Steinfeld
I’m saying the loss of the, I mean you would do a television show, but someone also has taken clips of your television show, incorporated it into their…
Paula Gloria
You mean when Howard Stern was pranking me?
Alan Steinfeld
Yeah. But you’ve taken that and now amplified it and other people have taken that. It seems like there’s a loss of the individual identity and it’s become a meshing of identities into a new form almost.
Paula Gloria
Yeah.
Alan Steinfeld
Like you can no longer say this is your show that Howard Stern was making fun of, he was like now because you’re going back and commenting on his comments about you. So where do you begin and he end?
Paula Gloria
No, that’s true. I mean, on my YouTube, I always pride myself that I don’t take down any comments even if it’s negative. And what I find is using the principles of Marshall Rosenberg’s Nonviolent Communication to try to create connections of empathy, and what I find is that somebody leaves a comment, I answer, they answer, you go back and forth, and then you can have this running dialogue and then other people get involved too that becomes as rich as the original video. So I think the text commentary is also important. And that’s what the search engines can find, they can’t really look into the videos. So the content of something is can be very determined by the comments that people make. So sometimes I spend a couple hours a day just going through with the comments.
Alan Steinfeld
How many videos do you have up now on YouTube?
Paula Gloria
I have 212.
Alan Steinfeld
Under Paula Gloria.
Paula Gloria
Yeah, youtube.com/paulagloria.
Alan Steinfeld
And they originally started as a mixing of politics and spirituality, right?
Paula Gloria
Yeah, I was getting into 9/11 Truth because I saw this video and I thought, oh my god.
Alan Steinfeld
I think 9/11 Truth is actually all over BBS Radio. I think they’re into that as well. I think there’s a whole section on this particular internet supposedly 80% of the population doesn’t believe the official version.
Paula Gloria
Really? How come I believe it?
Alan Steinfeld
I don’t know, ask yourself.
Paula Gloria
No, of course not. I still am a little old-fashioned though. I have to say that I could swear I saw videos where planes hit the building.
Alan Steinfeld
Well you did. It’s just that if you look very carefully at them, they were faked.
Paula Gloria
What was faked?
Alan Steinfeld
They, the airplanes going into the building.
Paula Gloria
No. People heard, I know people who’ve heard airplanes flying over their head.
Alan Steinfeld
Well you know, this is what this is what’s so fascinating is mass hysteria. It’s really phenomenal. And remember what was happening right after? All the anthrax scare? That all of a sudden meant that it becomes very intimate to everyone. It’s in your mailbox, it’s something you could touch.
Paula Gloria
Right. So what was that about you’re saying?
Alan Steinfeld
What was about going into Afghanistan. Why…
Paula Gloria
Wait, wait, the anthrax was going by going into Afghanistan?
Alan Steinfeld
To have the population be so hysterical and distracted that they wouldn’t even notice going into Afghanistan.
Paula Gloria
Is that why they did that?
Alan Steinfeld
Yeah.
Paula Gloria
Really? Well, think about it, does it make any sense that the attacks on 9/11…
Alan Steinfeld
Well, it makes more sense going into Afghanistan than it does going into Iraq. I mean, at least that’s where Bin Laden, the guy with the computer in the cave was.
Paula Gloria
Well, that’s why the mass hysteria. Because it doesn’t make any sense that a guy in a laptop and you’ve got so many Bin Ladens, the thin one, the fat one, the one that said he did it…
Alan Steinfeld
I know what Bin Laden looks like. If I had a chance to pick him up. No, I mean there’s one Bin Laden, but who knows if he was even responsible for it.
Paula Gloria
But you know, sometimes he says he did and sometimes he didn’t, so based on this one guy that can’t make up his mind, you’re going to terrorize a whole country?
Alan Steinfeld
I never heard him say he didn’t do it.
Paula Gloria
Well there’s clips that said he didn’t do it.
Alan Steinfeld
Which Bin Laden are you talking about?
Paula Gloria
No, but let’s get back to our original idea for the show, which was really talking…
Alan Steinfeld
I mean, there’s a lot of suffering in Afghanistan. The factory that’s the most prosperous is the one that makes prosthetic body parts because of the landmines, and you see these beautiful children missing parts.
Paula Gloria
But the landmines were from the Russians when they were there, weren’t they?
Alan Steinfeld
Yeah, but there’s an argument that the Russians were invited in because we were there trying to take over stuff for a long time.
Paula Gloria
Well, wasn’t there a whole opium, heroin thing?
Alan Steinfeld
That’s a net, that’s another sad thing. Now there’s an…
Paula Gloria
But the Taliban was actually shutting that down.
Alan Steinfeld
So they seem. But what were you going to say? There’s a whole another thing about well.
Paula Gloria
Well that’s why I think spirituality and the study becomes important so you can understand herbs and medicines as gifts of the Divine Mother to be used judiciously, not something that fuels a shadow economy.
Alan Steinfeld
But let me ask you, where do you think all the new media is going as far as our spiritual evolution? That’s what I’m really interested in.
Paula Gloria
Well, I think the internet is the future.
Alan Steinfeld
Yeah, but how does that uplift people spiritually? I mean, how do you see that connected into some of it?
Paula Gloria
Well, don’t you think there’s a skill involved, just like we were talking about drugs, the internet can become a drug too. You get addicted. I’m even figuring out how to get away from YouTube and just create a more intimate site of my own.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, I know, and I think that’s a great thing. But how do you think or let me take a stab at that same question in the sense that consciousness and this accelerated communication mediums somehow seem to be going together as more people have access to more information. It seems to stimulate more thoughts and at least more creative action.
Paula Gloria
Yes, I think that’s so, but I also think it also intensifies the trend towards mediocracy.
Alan Steinfeld
What do you mean by that?
Paula Gloria
If you look at YouTube lately, there’s a lot of the people that were in the original YouTube community constrain it right pick up when corporations try to fake it and pretend to be something spunky and made at home. People love that.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh, you mean people love stupid things like lonely girl? And then incorporate…
Paula Gloria
I don’t think I don’t think lonely girl is real.
Alan Steinfeld
You don’t think lonely girl is so you think she was a media…
Paula Gloria
No, but there is stuff that is real and you can feel it. It’s this it’s like transparency.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh, like the article in the Times today talked about that, right? There’s a whole article in the…
Paula Gloria
Yeah. Like I put my phone number out and, you know, I’m available. I just, I don’t know, it’s, it’s kind of like casting your consciousness upon the sea of the internet and hooking, hooking your, your divine connection, not being distracted by all these infinite possibilities, but knowing your way.
Alan Steinfeld
And then it’s easy to be transparent, and then it’s easy to make a sincere connection with other people and they respond, they respond to fall over the world. So I think so no I think you did touch upon the essence of what I was really trying to get at is that things like YouTube bring communication back down to the real people as opposed to incorporated into a kind of artificial plastic gloss.
Paula Gloria
Yes, if the real people are up to stepping up to the challenge and being real, not trying to be a fake person, not hiding under a fake identity.
Alan Steinfeld
Right. No, I think it gives the opportunity for that to happen at least, for real people to talk about real issues away from any corporate sponsored media. Yeah. Like I think I think on your next shows you should have a video that’s going on with your radio show.
Paula Gloria
What do you mean a video?
Alan Steinfeld
Well when you do your radio shows, then if people want to see your East Village apartment, which is just an eyesore, it’s an incredible an eye sore. you know, this this East Village in New York where all the arts and a lot of the new movements have started. And you’ve been here for 25 years. It’s quite typical then.
Paula Gloria
I know. But it’s a great thing.
Alan Steinfeld
No, no. So you’re saying if we had like a T1 line, people could actually listen and watch at the same time.
Paula Gloria
Yeah, I don’t even think you need a T1 line, but what I’m saying is all you need is a camera and then we could post it on YouTube after so they could actually see the conversation that they heard.
Alan Steinfeld
See the conversation that they heard and hear it again. And see it again. And see the visuals. And what would be the benefit of that?
Paula Gloria
It’s my experience, I get a feeling for what people want to know, they want to know something they haven’t seen before. And they’ve seen and they’ve been just so inundated and overfed with corporate spin. So whenever they have a chance to see something real and authentic, they just leap on it.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, I think authentic is this spirit that is the internet and YouTube is giving back to the people if they choose to drop into what it is, it should be authentic.
Paula Gloria
That’s right, like before I said, oh don’t tell people I’ve been here for 25 years because you’re in a rent controlled apartment, but it’s a great thing. No, that’s a wonderful thing that should be promoted. People should know if it wasn’t for rent control, you wouldn’t have the artists in Manhattan, otherwise this place, Manhattan’s going to become another casino city.
Alan Steinfeld
Right.
Paula Gloria
Not even upper east side, just a casino city, a tourist town when my brother came to to New York and he stayed in a nice hotel, I was so excited to show him one of my public access shows with him that I had done about cancer. And lo and behold, that fancy hotel didn’t carry public access.
Alan Steinfeld
They didn’t carry public access.
Paula Gloria
No, because they carry the kind of schmaltzy stuff that they think that tourists want to see. And I think that’s a travesty, people come to New York.
Alan Steinfeld
Well that’s the other part about authenticity and real people is that public access television gives people, gives the real people a chance to bring up the real issues, not something.
Paula Gloria
Well that’s why it needs us pioneers in public access to now move over to the internet. So for example, someone could come to New York, take all of the tours that tourists take, you know for $35 you sit on top of the bus and stuff, but somebody sitting wherever they are can see Alan Steinfeld’s apartment in the East Village, and they will have hit New York more than the tourists in those fake hotels.
Alan Steinfeld
Well they don’t even have to come to New York then.
Paula Gloria
They don’t even have to come to New York.
Alan Steinfeld
Yeah why even bother leaving home.
Paula Gloria
But that depends on the producers.
Alan Steinfeld
No, so I think the major point though of one of the major points that I did want to bring out in this conversation is that the spiritual significance of things like the internet is giving the airwaves back to the real people. So people can involve a real authentic understanding of what it is to be themselves.
Paula Gloria
Is there a number where people can call now?
Alan Steinfeld
I think let’s see, there does seem to be a number that people can call in, it’s from the website, it’s 877-270-8714 if you’re listening in the US. If you’re listening to this radio program in the US, and I think Michelle is there taking calls, and you can forward the calls.
Paula Gloria
Why don’t you say that number again? Because they weren’t expecting a call.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay. Cause we do want to talk about the understanding of spirituality and this new wave of communication. So if you have any comments and questions about that, call 877…
Paula Gloria
877…
Alan Steinfeld
270…
Paula Gloria
270…
Alan Steinfeld
8714…
Paula Gloria
8714.
Alan Steinfeld
In the US only. If you are…
Paula Gloria
And I think in Canada there was another number.
Alan Steinfeld
There is another number in Canada. It’s 888-861-3519. But if you go, if you’re listening and you’re on the internet, which you probably are, you go to bbsradio.com and then scroll down, you’ll see call and speak live with our host on BBS radio. If you scroll down, live, live, live. And to the right there it says BBS late night only. This is part of the late night shows and those are the numbers the 877-270-8714 for the US. We’d love to hear your comments and questions. And then toll free and they’re both toll free in Canada, 888-861-3519. Michelle if anyone’s calling through, calling you can put them right through.
Paula Gloria
That would be great to hear from a viewer cause that’s where I think the new media is all about, is the interactivity. Buckminster Fuller was on Harold Channer when the cable first came in in 1974. And I looked at it. It’s such a classic of Harold. And one of the first things Buckminster Fuller, he was really excited that cable meant that, you know, just regular people could make TV shows. But he was asking with childlike eagerness. And he goes, and the viewers, and the viewers, can they, can they interact? And I think, you know, Harold didn’t seem so excited about that when I pointed it out to him. But I said, what a visionary Buckminster Fuller was because he saw the future.
Alan Steinfeld
Well what did Buckminster Fuller say that…
Paula Gloria
Interactivity. It’s that autodidactic that people teach themselves. Now that college educations are getting so outrageously expensive, I think a lot of people are realizing, why pay all this money and not be assured of a job, or you know, it’s not all that it was cracked up to be. But meanwhile, if the internet is used skillfully, you can get an incredible education.
Alan Steinfeld
Right.
Paula Gloria
And it fits in just like the elements, and Ayurvedic medicine, and Chinese medicine, it’s all about being in balance with the environment.
Alan Steinfeld
Well I think that is the benefit of this age is that we have access to information that’s no longer homogenized and pasteurized. It’s, it’s, it’s unlimited. If you know where to look. I mean so people can actually learn the great mysteries that we, me and you Paula have been around the world searching for, they can actually just learn that right on the internet, you know. It’s available to them. And then the interactive part. Yes, that is a major understanding because now there’s a whole generation of children growing up that are not hypnotized by television, but are already learning a skill of interaction. And I think that’s going to create a major advancement as these…
Paula Gloria
And you’re going to have a different kind of producer, you know, a producer who is, who’s really listening to the viewer. Because I’ve learned so much from my viewers.
Alan Steinfeld
Really? Like what?
Paula Gloria
Oh, one guy from Finland called to my attention a drill that they were going to be having, because when 9/11 went on there were like 25 drills happening, and I thought how amazing you know to get this information from someone in Finland who was watching this.
Alan Steinfeld
Yeah, that’s the other, I think amazing thing, the smallness of the planet is also sort of pressure cooking us to a new level of spirituality.
Paula Gloria
And it makes you, it takes you to a new level of responsibility, because you go, somebody in Finland is very concerned that there’s not another 9/11 because if, you know, America gets so hyper-reactive, you know, and then launches out so viciously. So they’re very concerned, and it just makes you, it’s a very humbling and sobering experience to realize your power.
Alan Steinfeld
Right. So I mean just to review these points I think that’s some of because this is really the conversation that I really wanted to kind of delve into and bring up the questions that the kind of spiritual potential of the internet and YouTube and things is that it brings out more authentic questions from more authentic people.
Paula Gloria
Well, the potential is there.
Alan Steinfeld
And then there’s the availability of greater knowledge, more hidden knowledge is another available. The interactivity of like host and speaker that sort of starts to dissolve as, you know, more and more people interact with public access and radio shows like this. And then the smallness of the planet. The global village as Marshall McLuhan coined that phrase. He also saw that. A great teacher, Marshall McLuhan, Buckminster Fuller. He said there’s going to be a global village. He predicted the YouTube, he predicted things like YouTube, everyone in the future will have their own television station is something he saw coming. He didn’t know how that would happen, but he saw it coming. So I mean, these were the great prophets of the 60s that were able to see the future. I mean, what do you see now? So here we are in this amazing revolution, this amazing technological advance. So what do you see in 20 years?
Paula Gloria
20 years?
Alan Steinfeld
Well, 20 years. we are accelerating, no one would have, YouTube began in February 2005. It was sold a couple of months ago for $1.6 billion in less than two year, about two years they went from zero to 1.6. Not that that… I mean that only matches the value that it, you know, that monetary amount that it was sold for matches somehow the value that it represents to the culture at large. Right. So what do you see now that’s possible in 20 years?
Paula Gloria
I see a hope that people will tune into what magnificent spiritual beings they are and how powerful they are. Because they’ll step up to the plate. Like when I got these pyramids from Fred Bell, I had to…
Alan Steinfeld
You know Fred Bell is actually on BBS radio if you…
Paula Gloria
Oh really? Yes he has his own show. I should call him up on his show.
Alan Steinfeld
You should definitely call him up. Definitely. I’ll find out when he’s on. If you go to like the archives… Yeah. But what are you saying when you got these pyramids?
Paula Gloria
Well, the pyramid doesn’t make anything happen. It just creates an environment that if your intention is in that environment, it will intensify it. So the same thing I feel is true for the internet.
Alan Steinfeld
But you know, here we are, no one could…
Paula Gloria
I know nobody’s calling in so I’m sad.
Alan Steinfeld
You’re sad no one’s calling in? Well let me put the number. 877-270-8714 if you are listening anywhere in the US, just give us a call and let us know that you’re listening and I’m sure you have something to comment about what we’re saying because this is about interactive internet, radio, and seeing that we’re all a part of a bigger picture all like little pieces that contribute to a kind of global knowledge. But I’m just curious for you Paula, you know, how so I’m saying like we were into computers like 7 years ago, no one really saw YouTube coming, but it filled a void that seemed to be happening because you yourself said, look we’re shooting all these videos, what are we going to do with them? Remember that Paula?
Paula Gloria
Right, right.
Alan Steinfeld
So now there’s a place to put all these videos. Right, because human beings have a need to contribute. They have a need to contribute. But your very question, do you see that your very question contributed… you were saying five years ago we were shooting all these videos what are we going to do with them. You see if we could have turned that around and said we’re shooting all these videos, let’s create something to do something with them, we would have been ahead of the game and could have made the $1.6 billion for YouTube or something because we had the, we had access to the technology, my brother you know, could have created it, it would have been great for him.
Paula Gloria
No, you needed an intense amount of bandwidth.
Alan Steinfeld
No, no, but we…
Paula Gloria
I don’t believe that story that those young guys did it.
Alan Steinfeld
You don’t believe that? Why not, they had a great idea.
Paula Gloria
Because it’s a way to consolidate power and information.
Alan Steinfeld
No, why don’t you believe it? You can’t be a conspiracy…
Paula Gloria
Hang on Alan. How much would it cost to house all those videos? It’s staggering.
Alan Steinfeld
Well maybe not, they’re so compressed, you know. I’m sure they started out small, but as they grew… Well who do you think is behind it then?
Paula Gloria
Ultimately the Divine Mother, it’s all a play.
Alan Steinfeld
No, no, but you’re saying they, Divine Mother did not supply the bandwidth, I mean who do you…?
Paula Gloria
Of course she does.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh stop it. Paula, who do you think, if those two young kids didn’t create YouTube, who do you think did?
Paula Gloria
Um, you mean you want to get into this kind of a discussion? that’s not a spiritual discussion, you know, who controls the money, the Federal Reserve, the IRS… you want to go there?
Alan Steinfeld
We could go there, but it doesn’t seem like there’s an end to that conversation.
Paula Gloria
Right, exactly. That’s what Webster said, you go into a desert.
Alan Steinfeld
No it’s not a desert, but I do, I am curious because if the questions that we ask 5 years ago created something like YouTube, what questions are we asking now that will create the next level of media?
Paula Gloria
Well see the thing was is 5 years ago, corporate media controls what you’re… what you’re presented will determine what you’re going to think about something. So if you have a very limited presentation, you’re your resulting concepts are going to be limited. So what’s so phenomenal about the YouTube and the internet right now is that the playing field is level, it’s content driven. But like if you’re shy to show your apartment, then the potential doesn’t get used. For example, you see what I’m saying? So people still have to take a risk, the tools are there. But they’ve got to use the tools.
Alan Steinfeld
To reveal more of themselves
Paula Gloria
Yeah, because that’s the only thing that we have against the corporate driven media that’s going to work on hype and spin and image and people comparing themselves to the beautiful models.
Alan Steinfeld
But corporate media can’t even compete with YouTube now because what 100 million videos a day are downloaded, much bigger audience than any corporate media.
Paula Gloria
Well I personally think YouTube is sold out and that a lot of the stuff on there has those hits cause they launch them, they control the search engines, they tweak things.
Alan Steinfeld
I’m not as paranoid as you.
Paula Gloria
It’s not paranoia at all. I’m just saying… if no corporation could duplicate your apartment.
Alan Steinfeld
Right.
Paula Gloria
A viewer will know that. That’s what I’m saying. So what will that get? The lonely girl or whatever, you don’t see much of her bedroom. But you know, you could pan around this place and no set director could put this together. You know? I think that’s a good thing, isn’t it?
Alan Steinfeld
Yeah, it’s a great thing. And it gets down… But let me ask you though, where are you going spiritually? What’s your next move and how does that connect to the kind of television that you’re doing and putting out on YouTube?
Paula Gloria
Well what you were saying about paranoia and the politics and stuff, I do not have to, I absolutely feel that when I connect with my divinity beyond social mediocracy, then I’m not susceptible to a lot of the paranoias that people feel, oh my god, if you talk about 9/11 an inside job, they’re going to do you in, they did in JFK, they did in Martin Luther King.
Alan Steinfeld
No, I think too many people are talking about it.
Paula Gloria
Whereas when you look at JFK or Martin Luther King, you can actually see that the allure of the power starts to take away that constructive type of humility that granted is a privilege of a quieter lifestyle and when people are pushed into the limelight, it’s so much easier to lose your balance. And when you lose your balance, that’s when you have those assassinations and things like that come in. So there’s a science to it, there’s an art to it. That’s why it’s a great work. And you’ll find that the great masters, many of them are not in the limelight. They’re working very quietly behind the scenes. And for those who long for the real knowledge, it matters not whether they’re taken into the limelight or not, but they sense when they’re moving towards their soul purpose. And that’s something that is the greatest protection of all. And then of course you have to get into what protection is and what your life is, because if you’re going to live your whole life being afraid, then you’re never going to have a chance to give a crack at whatever your soul purpose was. Because you were afraid to move out and then you’re dead already. You’ve been assassinated right from the beginning.
Alan Steinfeld
So you’re telling people go for what they believe in. Go for their joy. Go for their power.
Paula Gloria
Yeah. And then stay balanced. Watch the sunrise, and do spiritual practice, and then you’ll feel when it’s right. You also feel when you’re running away. That gets boring, right? And those kind of people are not fun to be around. And that’s not real protection, because you’re just, you’re just a wimp.
Alan Steinfeld
So the real protection is doing your passion, doing your life’s passion. And for you it’s communication and television. And that’s great. I mean it’s good, but the only other thing I wanted to say is also to quote the whole idea of conspiracies. Marshall McLuhan said that to really deceive the people you have to hide the secret in public.
Paula Gloria
Yeah. Yeah.
Alan Steinfeld
That’s where secrets are held with in public congruity, incredulousness. It has to be considered incredulous publicly. So that gets into a whole other realm that hopefully we’ll pick up on future shows.
Paula Gloria
Great. It’s been nice talking to you.
Alan Steinfeld
So just give us a little background how to find you on YouTube and where you are and your email.
Paula Gloria
Youtube.com/paulagloria. And you can reach me at rabbitholecentral@earthlink.net. And I hope to be launching my own channel called rabbitholecentral.tv.
Alan Steinfeld
And when are you on television?
Paula Gloria
fartherdowntherabbithole.com.
Alan Steinfeld
And your television show?
Paula Gloria
Every day Monday through Friday in Manhattan, channel 34 at 11:30 am until 12:00. And then I’ll go live on the internet at 12:00 so I can take callers because I can’t take calls anymore on my daily show. Oh right. Which I miss so much.
Alan Steinfeld
And the type of programs you do are combining politics and spirituality. And that is really what your specialty is.
Paula Gloria
The Divine Mother, the five elements, manifestation,
Alan Steinfeld
All that manifestation as it plays out in a kind of political…
Paula Gloria
Well you know politics is the study of power, and the Divine Mother and Shakti is about power, so I don’t think anybody who’s into manifestation as a spiritual practice can really avoid politics. I think it’s inevitable. And like Plato said, the leaders, we’d think of a politician as a bad thing, but a real leader is one that leads because he sees that the job needs to be done and there’s nobody else doing it.
Alan Steinfeld
Right, a real public servant. So politics is a beautiful study. Thank you, Paula Gloria.
Paula Gloria
Thank you, Alan.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay, I will talk to you soon on the upcoming shows.
Paula Gloria
Great, bye.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay, thank you. Paula Gloria from Farther Down the Rabbit Hole. My next guest is, Rana, are you on the line? Hello. Michelle? My next guest is a specialist in healing meditation. And what she’s going to be doing is, she’s going to take us through a series of steps to understand and tap into deeper parts of ourselves, kind of bringing in online everything that we were talking about in this conversation and how to go deeper into these hidden parts of ourselves. So I’ll just, are we getting through to the guest at BBS?
Rana Chudnofsky
Hello.
Alan Steinfeld
Rana?
Rana Chudnofsky
Yes, hi.
Alan Steinfeld
Welcome to New Realities.
Rana Chudnofsky
Thank you. Thank you for having me this evening.
Rana Chudnofsky
I know you wanted to be a guest on the show, you came…It was… I appreciate your enthusiasm.
Rana Chudnofsky
Well I thought it would be a nice way to send over relaxation to everyone who’s listening.
Alan Steinfeld
Yes, and I think you do have a really great gift because even in a busy club where I met you, when you started to tell me what you were doing and I started to feel the healing energies that you put out there, I think it’s very powerful that you want to send out this healing meditation to people just by using your voice. But just tell me a little background about how you got into it and what your intention is. I mean not without going into all the details, but sort of how you got into the idea that you wanted to do this kind of work.
Rana Chudnofsky
Oh sure. Well I was helping a couple of relatives who came down with cancer actually in the same year, and one of the things that we came across was doing some imagery work during radiation treatment. Focusing on an image like a hot summer sun that’s healing your body from your top of your head down to your feet while you’re going through radiation can be very healing and all of a sudden other women started to join in during their…
Alan Steinfeld
But how did you even know how to do that? Was that something you tapped into intuitively?
Rana Chudnofsky
Yeah, it just kind of naturally, you know, I think when you love people you do, you kind of tap into whatever you can. So, that’s what seemed to kind of come. I think…
Alan Steinfeld
But you were open to this idea of spirituality…
Rana Chudnofsky
Yeah, I was open to it before. I was always open to spirituality before. And how did that come about? That kind of opening to that spiritual awareness? I mean what was your experiences that happened to open you up? Well, I don’t know if it was a big openness, I think it was just, you know, I think when I was a kid I was drawing vans with rainbows on them, so I think it was something that I hoped to kind of help the world out in some way.
Alan Steinfeld
So you came in with that knowledge you’re saying, in a sense.
Rana Chudnofsky
Yeah I think so. I mean I, I also had a, you know, I had a computer company for quite a few years as well, but I think when you see people who are sick you kind of tap into any kind of healing powers you have or any kind of imagery. And that seemed to work in that moment and it kept going and…
Alan Steinfeld
And what were, were they healing, did they recover?
Rana Chudnofsky
I can’t say that that was the only… I think that was part of people’s healing process. And that group of women also were going through radiation treatments too. But I do think it gave them something to focus on while they were going through their treatments and something positive. And something that they had, to realize that you have your own power, your own healing powers, I think is very important.
Alan Steinfeld
Right. So you gave people a sense that they were connected also to a deeper source of themselves.
Rana Chudnofsky
Yes.
Alan Steinfeld
And I think that’s the power, I think that’s sort of what you were saying. You came in with, you already came in with that awareness. So maybe this work is just a kind of outgrowth of an awareness you already have.
Rana Chudnofsky
Yes, yes.
Alan Steinfeld
So you’re going to give us a little healing meditation tonight?
Rana Chudnofsky
What I thought I’d do is I’d take you through something that seemed to help some women who are going through breast cancer. But this is actually something that I practice pretty much on a daily basis. So I welcome people to get comfortable whether it’s in their chair or under a nice cover. And what I’ll walk you through is just a body relaxation. So we’ll start with…
Alan Steinfeld
So before you do that, just say who you are and maybe how people can get in touch with you, cause this might take us into the end of the show, so before you start…
Rana Chudnofsky
Oh absolutely. I don’t know how to pronounce your last name. Okay. My name is Rana Chudnofsky. And people are welcome to feel free to call me if they have any questions or would like to learn different ways to practice this on their own, if I can help out. And my number is 617-738-0990. And what I’m going to do is start off with just some basic diaphragmatic breathing, focusing on your in-breath and out-breath. And then we’ll take you through a body…
Alan Steinfeld
Thank you very much Rana for being a part of the show too. So okay, I’m getting comfortable myself, so go ahead.
Rana Chudnofsky
Oh good, good. Okay, so and then what I’ll do is, I’m going to walk you through a body relaxation. And sometimes it’s helpful to focus, you know, on our toes. We’re such a head focused society, if I ask you to kind of relax your head and your mind, that can be difficult for some of us. So then we’ll focus on our toes and work ourselves all the way up to our head. And we’ll just send a wave of relaxation. So you know perhaps you can take a moment right now and you know from 1 to 10 just feel your body, you know, get into your body. 1 being you’re fully relaxed, no muscle tension, your heart rate is slow. And 10 being that you really, you’re really feeling a high level of stress right now, your shoulders have some tension, lower back or maybe some cramping, and rate that. And then after the relaxation you can just see for yourself if you’ve felt some, some changes in your own body. So let’s just begin by, you know, creating a space, you know, again where we can focus on ourselves. This is a real mini vacation for you from your day, from the busyness of our days in the society. And just allow your body to become as comfortable as you can. In your chair. You’re on your bed. And so that your hands are relaxed on your lap, and close your eyes. And when you’re ready, begin by taking an in-breath. And exhaling slowly on your out-breath. And another deeper in-breath. And an even longer exhale on your out-breath. And noticing that on your in-breath, relaxation is entering your body. And on your out-breath, just releasing any tension or stress. So on your in-breath relaxing. And on your out-breath releasing. So one way to further our relaxation is to bring awareness to different parts of the body. And during this time you might feel warmth or sometimes coolness or tingling in a specific area. We’ll start by bringing our focus to our toes. And moving our attention to the balls and heels of the feet. The area that carries so much weight during our day. And moving to the top of the feet. And ankles. And to your calves and knees. And your thighs. And taking a moment to actually feel your legs loose and limp. And letting awareness move to your hips and your buttocks. And your lower back and staying for a moment and softening the muscles there. Sending warmth to that area and letting go even more with an out-breath. And letting the muscles of the abdomen or belly soften. And noticing how the ribs move with each in-breath and out-breath. The upper body is fully relaxed and calm. And bringing awareness to your hands. And noticing how they feel when they’re completely still. And to your wrists and your forearms. And upper arms. Perhaps noticing that your arms might feel heavier. But in a comfortable way, as they fully release and let go. And taking a moment to soften the shoulders. And fully releasing any tension with your out-breath that might be stored here. Noticing tension just rolling off the tips of your shoulders. And moving relaxation to your neck and your jaw. Noticing the hinges of your jaw letting go. And bringing awareness to your mouth. And your cheeks. And your eyes and all the little muscles around your eyes to relax too. Now imagine the space between your eyes. And let this small area continually soften. Your forehead is smooth. Just letting go of all your facial muscles as you breathe out. Feeling your face. The place where many of our emotions are shown. Completely still. Now imagine a wave of relaxation and healing energy moving through your body. From your head, down your neck and arms and abdomen, down your legs and to your toes. Everything that needs to be released has left through your fingers and your toes. Take a moment and imagine another wave from your head to your toes. Softening and relaxing your body even more. Everything that needs to be released has been released from your body. Your body is at peace and deeply quiet. Experience gratitude and appreciation for your body at this very moment. So as we come to the end of this meditation, start to notice some of the sounds in the room. Notice the feeling of your body being supported by the chair. And begin to awaken by moving your fingers and toes. And when you’re ready, slowly open up your eyes and perhaps sit for a moment and enjoy the silence. Sensing your clarity as the mind and body have returned to their natural balance. And perhaps committing to sharing this sense of balance and peace with others you have contact with this evening.
Alan Steinfeld
Thank you, Rana. Yeah. I got it. Yeah, that was great. Something about your voice that is very hypnotic.
Rana Chudnofsky
I’m glad. It’s relaxing for me to guide. I go into it, I can’t say a full meditation, but I am extremely relaxed knowing and hoping that everybody…
Alan Steinfeld
You’re relaxing yourself, but do you have CDs or things that people can order for you? Because I think it’s excellent that, you know, I could listen to this every day. What, where do people find and buy something from you?
Rana Chudnofsky
Well I am in the process of making one of my own and I’m happy to give you that information once it’s completed. It’ll be kind of a series, because for some people sitting still or lying down isn’t for them, some people want to do some more movement, like progressive muscle relaxation, or some of us are powerful in the senses of imagery. So there’s tons of different ways to get…
Alan Steinfeld
So people can contact me if they want to get in touch with you. I’ve been just talking to Rana Chudnofsky. Thank you, Rana. Thank you so much for being a guest on New Realities.
Rana Chudnofsky
Oh yeah, thank you for having me. I greatly appreciate it.
Alan Steinfeld
And we’ll definitely do more. I’ll call you after this show. I want to talk to you, but that was really excellent and I hardly speak now myself, I’m feeling so relaxed. But thank you.
Rana Chudnofsky
Good. Goodnight everybody. Goodnight.
Alan Steinfeld
Thank you. I’ve been talking to Rana Chudnofsky and her relaxation meditation. And this is Alan Steinfeld for New Realities. And next week I’m going to have also some very exciting guests talking about the upcoming UFO conference that’s happening in New York and also an astrologer that will talk about the current psychic forecast that we’re coming into. So you can listen to me every Monday at this time, 6:30 to 7:30 Pacific Coast time, or 9:30 to 10:30 East Coast time. I’m going to leave off with this song called The Night Before the Future, which sums up a lot of what this show is about. If you want to reach me, I am at newrealities@earthlink.net and I’m exploring all the possibilities of which consciousness is seeking to expand. So any suggestions or comments, please email me at newrealities@earthlink.net. You can even try calling 212-473-6388. I leave you with this song, The Night Before the Future.