New Realities recorded on August 2, 2011
Summary
In this interview, Alan Steinfeld talks with actress and author Dee Wallace about her role in the iconic film E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial and her journey of spiritual awakening. Dee discusses the themes of her book, ‘Bright Light,’ emphasizing that we are all channels and creators of our own reality. She shares her personal experiences with limiting beliefs, the importance of self-love, and taking responsibility for one’s life. The conversation also touches on her work with past life regressionist Dolores Cannon, her views on extraterrestrials, and the power of the ‘I AM’ presence in manifesting a reality of joy, freedom, and abundance.
Transcript
Alan Steinfeld
Welcome to New Realities. This is Alan Steinfeld. Each week on this program I present a view of this change that’s happening in our culture and around the world, an opening and expansion of who we are as human beings. Tonight’s guest is very much a part of that. She is Dee Wallace, who was the star of E.T., one of my favorite movies, a Spielberg movie, E.T. And she’s just written her third book called Bright Light. Welcome, Dee, thank you for being here.
Dee Wallace
Oh, I’m so happy to be with you.
Alan Steinfeld
You know, I knew that movie E.T. was so deep and it wasn’t so much about extraterrestrials as it was about humanity and our ability to feel. Was that your sense of working on it?
Dee Wallace
Oh, absolutely. I don’t think anybody working on the film really knew the depth of the importance of it. I called my agent after I read it and I said, I don’t know if this is going to do anything for my career, but I think it’s going to do a lot for the world. So I got it even reading the script, I got the vibration of it, you know. And I don’t think it’s by any mistake that I starred in it because it’s really been my entire journey. And I think quite frankly, it represents everybody’s journey. We’re all trying to get back to the home of who we are, the truth of who we are, and we can’t do that if we shut our light down and our heart down, which is why I wrote Bright Light. So it’s interesting to me to look back on the fact that I starred in this film years before, and perhaps even the catalyst of writing this book, which is a lot the same story.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, I like how you talk about that, we are all trying to get home, and this is exactly why it’s such a powerful metaphor for our time. Dee played the mother of the children, the boys, and Drew Barrymore in that movie, if you’re trying to place her. But what was it like? Was that Spielberg’s vision to create this, or was it something that sort of came together despite him, or inspired by him? So was it bigger than him, or was he really the genesis of this whole vibration that went into that movie?
Dee Wallace
Oh, you know, I think we were all channels. We were all being used as channels for that. Especially Melissa Mathison that wrote the script. This was supposed to be Steven’s little movie. It was a little budget, with not a lot of special effects stuff, and it was his kind of little movie between his blockbusters. And perhaps, you know, that’s why it was such a blockbuster, is because it wasn’t done for that purpose. It was just done to tell this very pure story that Melissa had written. But I think we’re all used. You know, it goes back to Marshall McLuhan, it’s not the medium, it’s the message.
Alan Steinfeld
Right.
Dee Wallace
So all of us, even those of us that don’t particularly fit the pattern or fit the description of a guru or a channel or an enlightened one, are often times used, especially in the creative arts, to bring through information. Avatar is another really good example of that. I have never worked with Mr. Cameron, but I hear he certainly can be difficult and demanding to work with, and probably not your atypical type of loving guru type of person. But yet he was used in his creativity to bring through a very important message to all of us. Any artist over time can tell you that. I mean, the Beatles used to speak of that quite frequently, that they would just sit there and allow the song to come through.
Alan Steinfeld
Actually, all creative artists have that way of tapping into something and just letting it happen through them. I mean, that is the channeling. Homer in the Iliad said, Oh Muse, speak through me, speak the story. And so…
Dee Wallace
Exactly. Well, what I would like to propose to everyone listening right now is you’re all channels and you’re all creative, because you are creating your life. Whether you’re doing it consciously or not, that’s a whole other thing. But we are all creators, and we are all the creators of our self. And so everybody has the ability to open the channel and receive the information, everybody.
Alan Steinfeld
Right, and we all do, whether we know it or not. I mean, if we’re in the creative fields, we allow that to come through more. But you know, with these intense movie directors and other people, there’s this fine line between the ego wanting it and stepping out of the way and letting something else come through. How do we know the difference? And maybe we don’t, and how do we allow that to work with other people? Do you know what I mean?
Dee Wallace
Well, I have a lot of differing ideas about this than most people. First of all, I kind of take umbrage at all this ego stuff. I think we use the ego as an excuse not to be responsible for ourself. And somebody said, well, my ego got in the way, and I’ll say, and who’s in charge of your ego?
Alan Steinfeld
Right.
Dee Wallace
We are. So the ego doesn’t do anything or make us do anything or create us doing anything that we don’t give it permission to do, period. And the other thing that I think happens is that those of us who are on a spiritual path have been taught to keep our light down, to not be powerful. And actually, if we move into our power, we probably lose our spirituality. And that is a belief I would like to invite everybody to replace. It’s a limiting belief, it’s an old belief. And if those of us who are not holding peace, love, joy, and harmony for the world do not come forward in our power, then the other guys do, and then we stand back and go, see? And we blame them. But we haven’t come forward to create what we wanted.
Alan Steinfeld
Yeah, I totally agree. It is time for us in the spiritual world to come up and say, hey, this is my power, I’m important, and I have something to say. And to know that it’s because we are channels, not because we need to get this done for our own ego sense. But if that’s okay, too, I think, you know. You need an ego to do something in the world.
Dee Wallace
Absolutely. And this is a good time, and I really want to invite your listeners, go to my website and listen to this past life regression. I’ve just been on tour with Dolores Cannon for weeks, and one of the weekends that I was speaking and teaching with her, she said, you’re the one, Dee, you’re the one that they want to do the past life regression. It’s unbelievably empowering, the message that comes through this past life regression, and it’s literally, put the sword down, put your struggle down. Your love is your power. But you must know that power can be love and is love. Because we want to separate the two of them. It’s just an amazing, amazing journey, this past life regression. So I invite anybody that wants to, to go to iamdeewallace.com and have a listen. It’s free.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, I’ll actually listen to that. But you know, we don’t even have to go to past lives. Just looking at your book, there’s times it seems like looking back, you would have done things differently, and you learned a lot of lessons from those experiences. Can you talk about that, particularly with the movie E.T., where there were some challenges to you?
Dee Wallace
There were a lot of challenges, and they were my biggest challenges, and they pertained to exactly what we’re talking about. Because, little Deanna Bowers from Kansas that was raised in a very poor house. We lived with my grandmother most of the time. A pretty religious home. Dad was an alcoholic my entire life, ended up committing suicide. And what my basic lessons were, are, you’re an incredible, bright light, D.D., but don’t shine it too bright because people will not like you if you do. And don’t go too far, too fast, don’t have more than you just need. All those things are bad, and certainly don’t shout out to the world, I’m amazing and I’m wonderful. So even though I truly was loved unconditionally in my family, I was taught a lot of those limiting messages. Like we all, I think, are. And so, cut to E.T. coming out, biggest blockbuster of all time. I shot to stardom, everybody knew who I was, everybody wanted to interview me and know me, and all of those messages from my childhood raised their ugly head, and I went, oh, I better shut down. And I did. In many ways, I sabotaged the continual creation of me. And what happens when we do that is it usually appears that it’s outside of you and you’re not creating it.
Alan Steinfeld
Right, we blame other people.
Dee Wallace
But in essence, we know that we create everything. We are the creation of us and therefore our lives. So that is why I passionately wrote Bright Light, because I want people to know, whomever has hurt you, betrayed you, raped you, belittled you, humiliated you, abandoned you, that’s your story, and in this moment you can acknowledge it and move on from it instead of keep creating yourself by it. You can shine your light. And we’re all being called to do that, by the way.
Alan Steinfeld
Let me get this right. So this movie came out, E.T., the biggest, most watched movie, one of the top five or three of all times. And then you had an opportunity to be everywhere and do everything, and you said no because you didn’t want to look so good, you didn’t want to be so bright?
Dee Wallace
I didn’t want to acknowledge my power.
Alan Steinfeld
So you refused to do the interviews and you just kind of hid?
Dee Wallace
No, no. I never refused to do anything. I did all the press that was asked of me. I supported the film, absolutely, totally. But I shifted my energy and pulled my light back in. And then the universe said, okay, she’s not ready. We won’t keep her career going, we won’t give her other opportunities. And I didn’t do another studio film for 15 years.
Alan Steinfeld
Uh-huh.
Dee Wallace
And if you look at it from the point of view of blame and judgment and all that stuff that we’re taught to do, it looks like a lot of crap happened to me by a lot of not nice people. And what it really is, and I walk my talk about this, I truly know that your life is the virtual reality of the beliefs you hold. And however you see things through your perspective, that will be delivered unto you according to your beliefs. And it was. All those beliefs of I’m too big, I’m not worthy, I’m not going to be safe in the world if I’m this big, blah, blah, blah. And I want to take a moment to say, we’re taught these things by people who really love us.
Alan Steinfeld
Right.
Dee Wallace
But nobody taught them. You know, it’s like, forgive them, they know not what they do.
Alan Steinfeld
Right. A spiritual teacher of mine called it recycled ignorance. Because people are ignorant. They just don’t know what they’re capable of if they just allow themselves to shine their light. So then how did you turn that around after 15 years? What did you have to change in yourself and about your belief system to shine your bright light?
Dee Wallace
Well, first of all, I asked. And I talk about the night I dropped to the floor after my husband died, Christopher Stone, who we were married 18 years and he’s the father of my daughter, and he starred in a lot of movies with me, and he was my soulmate. And when he died early, it was like that was the straw, you know. And I dropped to my knees and railed at the heavens and said, I don’t want to be this way. I don’t want to be a victim. I don’t want to be pissed off anymore. I want my light back, and I want a way we can heal ourselves. And that was the magic words. And I’m telling you, I never understood what ask and you receive meant until that moment, and the next day information started flooding into me. I didn’t know why I was hearing the things I was hearing. I didn’t understand what it meant. I would get these energetic hits all over the place. So I had an acting studio of 80 students, and I took all the information in there, and we started testing it. And all of a sudden, you know, the work would get better, and their emotional blocks would melt away, and their fears about the business would open up, and they started getting agents, and they started working. And then they wanted me to do their moms, and their mates, and their partners. And then they wanted me to do something, and cut to now, 15 years later, where I’m doing private sessions all over the world every day, and am writing my third book about the information that’s coming through. Conscious Creation was my first book, and it’s a totally channeled book. Bright Light has a lot of channeled information in it, but it’s a much more accessible book for the masses. You can really have fun and get it through the stories of all of my great directors that I’ve worked with, and being on the set, and my challenges with a lot of my co-stars. You get it in a visceral emotional way, and you go, oh my god, this is me. This is me. This is my story.
Alan Steinfeld
It is. But then, I’m just curious about what is that secret? Because I think I could use it as well to get over our own stuff and to realize our greatness, our light, our divinity in that way. What is the key?
Dee Wallace
Well, I think I know that the cornerstone of everything is loving yourself.
Alan Steinfeld
Mm-hmm.
Dee Wallace
And I tell my listeners on my talk shows, love yourself, love yourself, love yourself more. Get up in the morning and go, how can I fill myself up with the love for me? Because we’re never taught that. We are never taught how to love ourselves. We’re taught the opposite. Give yourself away. Don’t speak up for what you want. Diminish yourself to stay safe in the world. Put other people before you. And we have to learn how to really love and cherish ourselves again, because who do we want to give everything to? The people we love. And if we’re in the line, we’re at the end of it.
Alan Steinfeld
Right, so we have to get…
Dee Wallace
So that’s the first part. And the second most important thing is to take responsibility for you. Nobody is going to create you, but you. And your life is a metaphor and a mirror for how you’re creating yourself.
Alan Steinfeld
Mm-hmm. Right.
Dee Wallace
So if you don’t create yourself first, you’re not going to create the life you want.
Alan Steinfeld
So being responsible is also being honest with yourself about exactly where you are, you know, and where you want to go and how much you feel you deserve.
Dee Wallace
Yeah. And all of the limiting beliefs and fears that are in the way of that.
Alan Steinfeld
Right. I guess what you’re saying is when we find a life of criticism and judgment, we start to believe that and it’s not really our truth. It was those people’s own criticism and judgments about themselves that we started to believe. And we have to, in a way, exercise it, get it out of our energy field.
Dee Wallace
Well, you just have to make another choice, guys. And, you know, I think one of the problems with the creation process is we just take it too darn seriously, quite frankly. It’s not that hard. You know, bottom line, what the channel was giving me the other day is it’s not a sci-fi movie. It’s fact. Write the virtual reality game that you want to play.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay.
Dee Wallace
And then believe it can be.
Alan Steinfeld
Right. I mean, in a way, so you are doing you’ve already reached the top of the hill, you know, in Hollywood big movies. And now you sort of… is it that you want to get back there or… because you have… you did accomplish a huge thing. And you were so great and beautiful as the mother in that movie. That would be the peak of a lot of people’s careers in a way, you know. And yet you want to… you want to keep writing that way, which is great. You should. You should be back out there in Hollywood starring in big movies.
Dee Wallace
Yeah, I think I don’t want to recreate anything because I know that when we look at it as recreating, we’re dragging a lot of the old stuff with us. And our job is to just be in this moment and create in this moment. So I am creating in this moment more great movies and more great parts, you know, that I want to be a part of now. And I want to work with beautiful people where we honor each other and are very talented in projects that I can be proud of that do something for the world. That’s what I want. Now that being said, that applies to my writing, that applies to my talk shows, that applies to every seminar and keynote speech that I do. It applies to everything. You see, when I create me as freedom, joy, bliss, harmony, unconditional love, and peace, and power, then everything that I create has to have those qualities because it starts with me.
Alan Steinfeld
When you say you create yourself to create yourself as those things, it’s that you believe that you are, that you know that you are that.
Dee Wallace
You know that you’re that and every thought and action that you choose supports that. So for me to be in fear that I’m not going to have enough money does not support me creating myself in freedom.
Alan Steinfeld
Right. So you create yourself… I’m just trying to get that because I think it’s good for everybody is that when we create ourselves in the vision of what we want, it’s we hold the vision as if it is true, as if it is already happened in a sense.
Dee Wallace
Well, it has. Because creation can’t happen unless the masculine, feminine, and child come together in balance. And if you think of the baby metaphor, the sperm and the egg come together, in the moment that they meet, the child is made.
Alan Steinfeld
So then how do you relate that to creation in an individual’s process?
Dee Wallace
Okay. So you have the divine idea that comes to you and you call forth your power to match that, which is the masculine. In that moment of decision, not hoping, not thinking about it, not, “Gee, that would be nice,” but in that moment of decision where you go, “I’m creating this,” then the creation already happens. And that’s what they mean when they say it’s already been delivered unto you.
Alan Steinfeld
Right. There’s a line of Jesus who said that, “as if it is already been done.” So, okay. So let me see if I get that. So you have the vision of what you want, you then you call in the energy of it manifesting. And in that moment, there’s the fertilization of the idea and it goes out into the cosmos and already exists in a form because we just created it as a form and then it has to come back to us because it’s part of our creation.
Dee Wallace
Because it’s already created. But what we do is we keep looking for it and we go into doubt. And as soon as we go into doubt, we start asking questions, right? And why not? And we get our mental mind behind it and then we go into not knowing. And as soon as we go into not knowing, then we create the abortion of the child.
Alan Steinfeld
Right. So the big thing is to create the vision, put the energy out and trust and have faith in our own spirit, holy spirit, in that sense, if you want to call it that.
Dee Wallace
Well, and our spirit is all spirit. See, you know, we’ve got the angels, the guides, the archangels and God down pretty well. But we forget ourselves in that scenario, in that oneness, in that wholeness of the I AM. And basically, that’s the book that changed my life is the I AM Discourses because it says in there quite clearly that your I AM presence, which is the presence that creates everything, okay, cannot create for you without your clear direction of it. And none of us are taught that it’s our direction and our choice and our decision and then the world and the energy can respond to it. So we have to, when we’re saying, “God deliver this to me,” we’ve got to know unconditionally that we’re the God that’s delivering it to ourselves.
Alan Steinfeld
I totally agree with you and the way you talk about it, it is so simple and it’s as if, and I don’t want to get into conspiracies, but it’s as if we’ve been kept from that knowledge about our own power. And so we’re just coming back to it.
Dee Wallace
Well, sure we have because we’re afraid of it. So we created a lot of people that lied to us about it so we wouldn’t have to deal with it.
Alan Steinfeld
We’re afraid of it, and I think people in control are afraid of that power. So it’s retarded in a sense.
Dee Wallace
Well, yeah. You see, if we’re holding the belief that people in power are lying to us to hold us down and that’s our reality, then that’s the reality we’ll create.
Alan Steinfeld
Right. And we give them power that way.
Dee Wallace
Yeah. As we believe, we’re going to deliver it. So, you know, what’s a higher, unlimited thought is that we know the truth, we are the truth, that nobody or no thing outside of ourself can define who we are. And therefore I take responsibility for defining me. I mean, I just gave the sermon at my spiritual center. And I got up and my first line was because we’re going through financial difficulties, right? That this spiritual center is a metaphor for the financial demise of America. We’re out of money, America’s out of money. And unless we individually start creating ourselves in the knowingness of money, and everybody loves the word abundance, but when we say abundance we’re really talking about money, right? Every limiting thought that we have about money, every fear that we have about money creates ourself, our homes, our society, our churches, our nations, and ultimately our world.
Alan Steinfeld
Our relationships. Money that we beliefs about ourselves. Yes. Yes.
Dee Wallace
So if you don’t like the way things are showing up anywhere in your life, look at what you’re believing about them. Every time, and I’m not a political person at all, but I can tell you that every time you think a lesser or what we call negative or limited thought about this country, you’re helping to create it as negative and limited.
Alan Steinfeld
Just like the way we create those beliefs about ourselves every time we have a negative and limited thought about ourselves.
Dee Wallace
Absolutely. You are, if you can think of your body as a mini-universe that is a hologram of the whole universe, you kind of get how important you are.
Alan Steinfeld
And you know, I really got sort of a transmission as you were talking, or a sense that simply, and it is simply by believing in this I AM presence, which is the life force that’s generating the being consciousness in you, that is the power of creation right there.
Dee Wallace
Absolutely. But you got to direct it, see?
Alan Steinfeld
Yes. Yes.
Dee Wallace
So if we’re, for example, if we’re sitting in front of a television set, in an hour, we hear what age we’re going to get what disease, what medication we better be on, and how it’s probably going to kill us anyway, right? And if you’re not sitting there going, “You know what? I’m perfect wellness.” And that’s the direction that I’m giving me and the presence that creates everything. I’m wellness, give me wellness, I’m creating wellness, that’s it. But if we don’t create ourselves consciously like that, we become the created upon by genetics, by again, sins of the fathers, teachings that, you know, were limiting for them so they’re teaching us, by society, by the media, and by our own fears.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, this is one of the reasons I do this program because I know we need to create new realities about everything we’ve been taught and been conditioned to believe and people like you coming forward and using the notoriety that you have, the fame, it’s helping to turn on the lights. And so…
Dee Wallace
Well, I hope so. That’s my joy. And that’s my intention is by using me and my journey that I can help enlighten others and wake others up to the fact that they are their answer. I mean, it’s like the end of the Wizard of Oz, you know, you had the power all along Dorothy. And ET had the, you know, nobody was going to get ET home but ET.
Alan Steinfeld
Right. Right. And no one’s going to get us home back to our source except us. And there’s no relationship, no money, nothing outside that’s going to get us there until we believe in ourselves. And I think that’s part of getting off the wheel of incarnation is having that deep soul understanding that we are source.
Dee Wallace
Yes. And you know, I have to tell you what came through in one of my workshops about Karma, is literally there is no karma in the way that we’ve believed in it anymore. That there can be instant karma with a thought. So you have limiting thoughts like I’m stupid, I’m too old, I’m not worthy, I can’t create anything, then you create your karma. In the moment that you choose I’m magnificent, I’m unlimited, I’m absolute unconditional love and joy and bliss, you have no more karma.
Alan Steinfeld
Right. I totally agree with that. And the thing about past lives is that we get stuck in a belief system because of ideas we’ve had in those lifetimes or situations that have happened that get us locked into kind of a soul agreement about who we are. So like my last lifetime, I think I was in a concentration camp in Germany and lost everything in that. And now coming back, I’m realizing now that I can have it all and it won’t be taken away. So I’m getting over that deep ingrained belief system that I feel has been passed on. Of course, it’s just a story, but it’s a story that makes sense to me.
Dee Wallace
Well, but it’s a story that literally becomes a commitment because it’s still in your energetic cellular field. Right. So we don’t have to know what all those other lifetimes are. We simply have to create in this moment what we want or, let’s see, the channels yelling at me here. No. So I’m going to balance this for a minute. I am divine love. What am I missing here? Oh, we have to know in every moment of now that we’re creation. We are the creation of this moment. Okay, so what do we want to create in this moment? Freedom, joy, bliss, peace, harmony, equality, enoughness for all people, right? Sharing. What else? That is what we choose to create in this moment and every moment of now. And I know on my show on Thursday morning that they’ve already told me to talk about this energetic time. Because really time doesn’t exist and we’ve heard this for a long time, right. But they’re saying the only time that’s really real is energetic time. And I said, “Well, what the hell is energetic time? I don’t know that term.” And it’s when we are conscious enough to stay in this moment of now. Because in this moment of now is where your creation happens. So if you can stay in the present moment and keep creating, you can create five times more stuff, right, than somebody who is still trying to recreate the past or creating for the future.
Alan Steinfeld
Right. The power is in the I AM right now. Yes. And so when you talk about your channel, is this a part of you that sort of channels, are you channeling your I AM essence in a sense?
Dee Wallace
You know, I’ve been a channel ever since this show started. I think I kind of live in the channel quite frankly.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, that’s it. I mean, you can take credit for your essence in a sense. That’s what I’m getting, you know.
Dee Wallace
Yes, and somebody asked me in one of my shows, “Who do I channel?” I said, “I don’t have the slightest idea. Let’s ask.” And we were directed to a place in my sheets and basically it said everybody. I channel everybody because it’s all one energy. Right. So I channel God, I channel the angels, I channel the archangels, I channel myself, I channel you. I channel all the information because there isn’t any separation. And when we make separation, we’re only by our own limitation invoking part of the energy that can work for us.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, I think we’re always, most of the time we’re channeling this I AM energy, if we’re going to take responsibility, then it’s the soul essence that is the I AM presence, that is the true part of us, the authentic part is the part we’re all channeling. And that’s the same in all people. So I think what I believe is the path of this life is finally embodying the I AM presence in every moment. And slowly the personality starts to kind of fade away until we all are that. I am that, as they say in India, you know.
Dee Wallace
Yes, and that can look very different in everybody, you know. A lot of people call me the irreverent healer because I like to joke around a lot. I like to have fun. I’ll come on the show and talk about sex. I think sex is great. I liked sex. I think everybody should like sex. I liked to have my wine at night. And every once in a while a four letter word escapes my mouth. You know. And do I absolutely know that I’m connected to the “I am?” You bet.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, you know, sex is our divine pathway. Home. That’s why it is so pleasurable. That’s why you know, orgasm is a union with the divine. That’s that’s why it’s such an important part of people’s lives, whether they know it or not.
Dee Wallace
See, I knew I liked you.
Alan Steinfeld
All right, well have to meet sometime.
Dee Wallace
I absolutely agree. Absolutely.
Alan Steinfeld
And it’s just about being human. We can’t deny things like sex or anything. We can’t restrict any part of our human experience, because this is why we incarnated. We incarnated to have fun, to have pleasure.
Dee Wallace
Yeah. And that’s why I love the movie Michael with John Travolta.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh, I missed that. Yeah.
Dee Wallace
Oh my God, you haven’t seen you’ve got to go watch Michael. Promise me you’ll Netflix it or something.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay. I will rent it. But what’s the, what’s the punch line of that movie you’re saying?
Dee Wallace
Well, basically, he’s an angel that comes down to Earth, and the reason he comes is because he loves the earthly experience. And he has sex, and he eats sugar, and you know, he eats all the garbage food, and he just has fun. He gets out and he dances. And you know, and basically, guys, you got you got the wrong idea. Right. You come to this plane to experience.
Alan Steinfeld
It’s this is it’s the problem with religion. You know religion has replaced people use religion to control others.
Dee Wallace
Thank you.
Alan Steinfeld
And of course limit themselves.
Dee Wallace
I mean you know don’t tell me I can’t speak to God, only through you. I ain’t buying that. I never bought it.
Alan Steinfeld
Well that, that is what my website is about, newrealities.com. It’s about taking back our power in many, many different directions, in many avenues of the self, and to overcome the restricted religious dogma that have kept people trapped and entrapped in a limited belief. And so I think we are moving into a new age, a new time. And I think 2012 is a part of this transition. I do believe in ETs, I think Spielberg is a channel for the ETs whether he knows it or not. And I think we have a new time coming to the earth. I mean, what do you think?
Dee Wallace
I think actually it’s already here, but we haven’t woken up enough to see it. And, you know, we have to see it through our perspective, if it’s going to be a reality. So it’s just going to be a continuing opening, expansion into a more blissful place. But again, we have to agree with ourselves to see the glass half full, if it’s going to be half full. The perspective that we hold creates the reality we live in. And the way they explained the New Earth to me, the channel was you know, if if you believe that the New Earth has to be a separate place, a separate Earth that literally separates from this physical earth, then that’s the reality that you will create. If you know that the New Earth is an energetic move into peacefulness and unconditional love and harmony and bliss, and you can stay here and live in that, then that’s what you will create. There’s no right or wrong or better or worse, or the only answer. Again, what virtual reality do you want to create?
Alan Steinfeld
Exactly. Well, it’s a.
Dee Wallace
Mind bender. It’s a mind bender because we go. No, that’s a movie, right?
Alan Steinfeld
Well movies are reality they’re possibilities but I’m with you. I’m with you. We can create we can create peace on earth and a paradise. And we can we can have it all. We truly can.
Dee Wallace
And we do as soon as our perspective knows that.
Alan Steinfeld
So what other kind of spiritual awakenings or experiences have you had as you open up energetically to this field? Like, what’s come to you? What visions have you had and?
Dee Wallace
You know I I don’t see things, I hear things. I’m really clairaudient. Sometimes they give me pictures, but I don’t, like one of my healing partners he’ll actually see people standing in the room and stuff. I don’t do that. I think I’d probably be freaked out and that’s why I don’t do it. You know I’m I’m working with myself to being open to know it’s just energy that wants to communicate. So.
Alan Steinfeld
Part a key to that is being conscious in your dream states. And the more you’re lucid in those dream states, the less I feel we’re freaked out about the manifestations that appear in front of us. Because as I become more lucid, things turn into other things, and there’s always a sense of me as the observer. So as I start to see things, I I I’m at peace with it. That’s just.
Dee Wallace
Oh, well, good. I needed to hear that. That’s, that’s great.
Alan Steinfeld
And that I, and that of course, is our doorway into some of these other dimensions. So, I was just. Yeah. Tell me more, tell me about your work with Dolores Cannon, because she is an amazing being.
Dee Wallace
She is quite an amazing being. She found my work and loved it and wanted to take me out on tour and introduce me to her people. And so, while that’s been happening, of course, I got to sit in on her weekend amazing weekends by the way where she teaches past life regression and hypnotherapy. And you know, and at the same time, she would say things like, you know, the New Earth is definitely another place. From my channel, I got to know on that. So we would have these very lively conversations in the evening, and both of us, you know, come to the conclusion again, that your perception creates your reality.
Alan Steinfeld
Right.
Dee Wallace
So, um, it’s been a really stimulating summer for me getting out and traveling with her and, you know, becoming acquainted with all these masses of books that she has, where she’s done these regressions and actually talked to people about the lives that they’ve had, when they’ve been abducted, what happened? The one thing that we can agree on totally that we share the same perception about is that you know, the extraterrestrials have been around for eons, and they’re here to kind of protect and guide us, really, and support us in making the higher choices. And they can’t interfere, but they can be a presence that helps us wake up and be more aware.
Alan Steinfeld
What do you think Spielberg’s connection to ETs are? Do you think he was an abductee?
Dee Wallace
I have no idea, darling.
Alan Steinfeld
I think he probably was. I think, I mean this is just my guess. Who knows? But I think some of those images were planted in his minds to in his mind to create an openness towards these inter-dimensional inter.
Dee Wallace
Well, yeah, but see, I mean, he’s done he’s done other films Right. That create have created horrible aliens.
Alan Steinfeld
That’s true. The War the Worlds. But yeah.
Dee Wallace
Well, an artificial intelligence, I mean, that was a really negative film.
Alan Steinfeld
It was? I didn’t think that was such a negative film.
Dee Wallace
Oh, I thought it was a terribly negative film.
Alan Steinfeld
You did? When the little boy became human and they, those ETs helped? I mean, what was negative about it? I mean, it was a little destruction, but.
Dee Wallace
I you know, I haven’t seen it in so long that I can’t really speak about it too intelligently. And we’re talking about Artificial Intelligence. But.
Alan Steinfeld
No, but I guess what I wanted to ask.
Dee Wallace
Oh hold on. Hold on. Cause there’s something coming through right now. So basically aliens are not artificial intelligence. They are higher intelligence. They have more knowing than we’ve moved into. So for us to think that for us to think that becoming them would be a lesser or being them would be a lesser experience, is a limited thought.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay. Can you can you ask your channel if there’s a time where will will merge with that consciousness?
Dee Wallace
It’s already happening. It’s already happening for those people who are seeing it and and willing to be there right now.
Alan Steinfeld
Wow.
Dee Wallace
Remember where the natives couldn’t see the ship because they didn’t know what it was. So they literally couldn’t see it?
Alan Steinfeld
Yes, yes, definitely.
Dee Wallace
So, you know, that’s why Einstein used to say I go into my imagination. I go into my imagination where I can imagine what the answer is, because I haven’t seen the answer yet.
Alan Steinfeld
I think that’s a metaphor for the realities that we are moving into these realities like you’re saying these realities already exist but we’re not seeing them because we don’t have the cognitive factors in in putting those realities together.
Dee Wallace
Well then we need to direct the “I am” presence to give us those.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, and that’s where creativity comes in. That is the core of creativity. Because it’s only with the creative but right I’m writing a whole thing about the artist’s role in creating new realities because it’s the artist that sees new patterns of perception. And by seeing these new patterns, they cognize new forms that are right here in front of us.
Dee Wallace
Absolutely. I mean, Leonardo DiCaprio’s film, you know, where they could stop the moment and section.
Alan Steinfeld
Yeah Inception.
Dee Wallace
Yeah. People are starting to channel right and left what it’s all about, but we still think it’s a movie and it’s not.
Alan Steinfeld
Have you studied Richard Bartlett’s work, Matrix Energetics?
Dee Wallace
Um a bit.
Alan Steinfeld
I think you would love that because he talks about parallel timelines that exist right around us and all we have to do is is stop the the patterns of thought that we’re having that that’s creating this reality and in the moment of grace the uh a new one unfolds.
Dee Wallace
Yes.
Alan Steinfeld
And you can see miracles right in front of you at that in that work. And, and many people are tuning into other ways of knowing. So and this is what your work is about. You are trusting and through this interview I, I got a real sense of how much you are dedicated to the, the “I am” spirit, the “I am” essence inside of you. And.
Dee Wallace
Well, and and that’s, you know literally, inside, outside, around and through, that’s all there is. So, this is what I want. This is my clear direction of it. Now you know, take it, guys. Create it. My job’s done. Right. And some people call that naivete, and some people call it miraculous creation.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, I want to call it what it is and I don’t want to listen to what other people, I I call it reality and possibility of living and, and this is what your work’s about, and um if you work.
Dee Wallace
And you’re my friend.
Alan Steinfeld
Wait what’s that?
Dee Wallace
And yours.
Alan Steinfeld
Oh yeah. Absolutely. And I’m doing it because to be truthful, I’m doing it because I wanna know this so deeply for myself that I don’t forget it. That’s why I’m doing this work.
Dee Wallace
Yes.
Alan Steinfeld
So Right? We do it because this is what we need to know or at least I feel I can’t hear it enough. I need to just immerse myself in that, um as long as it takes for me to really get that we are the creators of our reality.
Dee Wallace
Yes, and the Hopis told us that years ago: We’re the people we’ve been waiting for.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay. And we have arrived.
Dee Wallace
Yes. We have. I’m claiming that with you right now, dude.
Alan Steinfeld
So be it, let’s, okay. Thank you.
Dee Wallace
That’s our reality. We’re there, it’s done, it’s all delivered to us already and we can see it.
Alan Steinfeld
Thank you. And as I take that into my body, I feel a increased vibration that’s happening throughout me.
Dee Wallace
Yeah. I call that joy. Joy in the truth.
Alan Steinfeld
Well, thank you Dee. You’re you’re back in Hollywood though you’re, you’re doing some films. And how do you take this awareness and bring it onto the set, bring it into a into the movies you’re working with?
Dee Wallace
You know, I bring it into me, and if again, I am the creation of it, then all around me, I will see through that perspective, right?
Alan Steinfeld
We create with the essence of who we are, not what we do.
Dee Wallace
Right. We create with the essence of who we are, not what we do.
Alan Steinfeld
And do you put you still have personal dramas, I mean you don’t have to tell me what they are, but I’m sure there’s things that upset you and get you know.
Dee Wallace
You know, not too many these days. Right now, I’m trying to hold my balance around a very, very good friend of mine who’s chosen to leave instead of stay.
Alan Steinfeld
Uh-huh.
Dee Wallace
And, um, that’s.
Alan Steinfeld
That’s their choice.
Dee Wallace
It’s their choice, but it’s my test.
Alan Steinfeld
And maybe you’re reality has evolved beyond where theirs could, you know, stand in a way, you know.
Dee Wallace
Well, and you know, I really love what Dolores Cannon says that many, many, many people are leaving right now.
Alan Steinfeld
Mm hmm.
Dee Wallace
In tsunamis or otherwise. Many people are leaving right now because they believe they can help more from the other side. So, not for us to judge who’s made that decision or not.
Alan Steinfeld
Right. But and we are here to uplift the planet into this world that we we’ve been talking about, and it’s very exciting times.
Dee Wallace
Indeed it is, my friend.
Alan Steinfeld
And thank you, Dee.
Dee Wallace
Oh, thanks. It’s been. I could spend five more hours with you.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay, so I’ll, I’m coming to Los Angeles. We’ll do a a television interview. I bring a camera, and camera people and we’ll do that okay.
Dee Wallace
I’d love that. You just let me know.
Alan Steinfeld
I will let you know I’ll let your uh people know and we’ll do that maybe in September sometime okay.
Dee Wallace
Great, great. Thank you.
Alan Steinfeld
Okay. Your website is iamdeewallace.
Dee Wallace
Yes. .com.
Alan Steinfeld
.com. And Dee’s latest book, “Bright Light,” and of course, the star, the mother in E.T. Do you ever see um the cast at all?
D. Wallace
No, we’re all pretty busy going our different ways, I think.
Alan Steinfeld
I think we should have a reunion film right, E.T part two.
Dee Wallace
Yeah. Right, right, right. I don’t know, the kids are grown and the dog’s dead, but we’ll figure out a story there somewhere.
Alan Steinfeld
That would be great! What a great sequel. E.T comes back after 30 years to see what happened.
Dee Wallace
Yeah, a lot of people have put that out to him.
Alan Steinfeld
Well we’ll see. But thank you. Your work, your work is really in alignment with what I’m doing. Thanks for being on the show.
Dee Wallace
Oh, thank you for having me darling. Thank you. And blessings to all your listeners.
Alan Steinfeld
Thanks again. I’ve been talking to D. Wallace, who um is the author of Bright Light, and well-known actress. This has been New Realities with Alan Steinfeld. Thanks for listening. Check my website for this interview and others, also on BBS Radio Archives, email me at newrealities@earthlink.net and let me know what you think of it all. Thank you.